Number 5

[Oldbiscuit]

Well I finished up number 4, Le Miserable and decided to start on number 5. Haven chosen a name yet, but I spent the day in the shop building a framing fixture and rebuilding the rear section of a pre WWII girls frame. It was so twisted and put out line, but I liked the looks of it so I cut it up and straightened it. It started as a 24” frame, so I made new axle drop outs for 26” wheels.. I got the drop loop tubing made, notched and tacked in . Found a springer fork, which I plan on modifying. The plan for this one is to use a skip tooth drive line for the pedals and a belt drive much like Le Miserable for the engine. Speaking of engine, I remembered an old Honda 5 1/2hp L head engine I had, so the plan is to use that. Next phase will be to weld up the frame, build the motor mount and fit it in.

 

[curtisfox]

WOW Look at that stand, KOOL, is that a big square tube? Another KOOL build........Curt

 

[Oldbiscuit]

No it’s a 6’ long piece of 6x6x1/4” angle iron I had out in my iron pile. The uprights are just unistrut that I just tacked in place. When I’m done I just cut the tacks, disassemble and put it all away until the next build . Cheap, square and strong, but not light weight.

 

[curtisfox]

No it’s a 6’ long piece of 6x6x1/4” angle iron I had out in my iron pile. The uprights are just unistrut that I just tacked in place. When I’m done I just cut the tacks, disassemble and put it all away until the next build . Cheap, square and strong, but not light weight.

KOOL, and secure, not much give to that. LOL................Curt

 

[Oldbiscuit]

Well after looking at the frame a bit, I changed my mind, cut the top bars tack welds and reworked it. Took it out of the frame fixture and welded it up. Back in the fixture and time to mount the engine. While it was off the jig I went ahead and removed several layers of paint.

 

[Oldbiscuit]

Someone asked me on a previous build how I bent my tubes. I use a confit bender for the most part and on short bends I use the bender without the handle and my hydraulic press.

 

[curtisfox]

Now it's going to be said why didn't I think of that, AWESOME!..............Curt

 

[Tom from Rubicon]

Happiness is a hydraulic press. Bought my 30 tonner at the same farm auction that I won a 30 inch kick shear.

Tom

 

[Venice Motor Bikes]

Good looking frame!

 

[Oldbiscuit]

Happiness is a hydraulic press. Bought my 30 tonner at the same farm auction that I won a 30 inch kick shear.

Tom

I’ve had this 20 ton HF for 5 yrs and I love it. I’ve built a couple presses over the last 40 plus yrs, but steel prices have gotten so high, it was cheaper to buy the HF one and do a little modifications.

 

[Oldbiscuit]

Good looking frame!

Thanks. My plan is to apply a thin coat of bronze weld over all the joints and sand polish them out to make it look like a period frame.

 

[Tom from Rubicon]

I spent the last 10 years of my working career designing and building weld fab fixtures. So much for being a Tool and Die Maker I say ironically. But adapting to a work challenge has been my forte.
It would be to your credit to show how your weld fixture was built, and how you established your registration points. CNH designs were notorious obfuscating true zero.
Trick question. Why did you not weld up a full frame? The seat and chain stay section does not match what you have fab'd .
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Tom

 

[Tony01]

Nice. I use the unistrut for the jig. Mine is all galvanised so I can leave it outside. Kind of amazing, I built the jig for one build but I’ve already done two customer projects on it.

 

[Oldbiscuit]

Well I built a lower box with four studs to go under the engine. Then I welded two ears in the frame and dropped the engine in the frame. So far lots of time spent measuring, squaring and leveling, but it’s coming out right on the button. I keep telling myself on every build that I’m going to build a more permanent, adjustable jig, but I keep going back to old reliable. Works great, it just takes a lot of time to tack it all in place and get everything aligned.

 

[Oldbiscuit]

Next up is to build a top mount from the head to the middle frame tube.

 

[Oldbiscuit]

I spent the last 10 years of my working career designing and building weld fab fixtures. So much for being a Tool and Die Maker I say ironically. But adapting to a work challenge has been my forte.
It would be to your credit to show how your weld fixture was built, and how you established your registration points. CNH designs were notorious obfuscating true zero.
Trick question. Why did you not weld up a full frame? The seat and chain stay section does not match what you have fab'd .
.
Tom

Well Tom, it’s kind of like a bride on her wedding day “something old, something new….”. Every build so far has started off with an old frame that I keep cutting on and adding my own tubes. I kind of like the look of the rear triangle on this build, gives it an older look .

 

[Oldbiscuit]

I spent the last 10 years of my working career designing and building weld fab fixtures. So much for being a Tool and Die Maker I say ironically. But adapting to a work challenge has been my forte.
It would be to your credit to show how your weld fixture was built, and how you established your registration points. CNH designs were notorious obfuscating true zero.
Trick question. Why did you not weld up a full frame? The seat and chain stay section does not match what you have fab'd .
.
Tom
[/Tom , 35 years back I worked for a local manufacturing company that built dairy equipment and lawn care equipment. I was the head of Research and Development and in that position I was required to build all the welding, drill, press, and brake jigs for every piece of equipment that we put into production. Great job, but the owner decided to sell the company and I was let go. I’ve never looked back, and every day is a new adventure with new opportunities. A person can always learn new things and keep improving them selves. I’m reminded of the Greatful Dead song” I might be going to **** in a bucket baby, but at least I’m enjoying the ride !!!]

 

[Mossy]

Happiness is a hydraulic press. Bought my 30 tonner at the same farm auction that I won a 30 inch kick shear.

Tom

I'm hoping 12ton will do everything I need... Table top kind with a press brake for it...

Well I built a lower box with four studs to go under the engine. Then I welded two ears in the frame and dropped the engine in the frame. So far lots of time spent measuring, squaring and leveling, but it’s coming out right on the button. I keep telling myself on every build that I’m going to build a more permanent, adjustable jig, but I keep going back to old reliable. Works great, it just takes a lot of time to tack it all in place and get everything aligned. View attachment 113783 View attachment 113784

Great work... Just learned a few more things... #5 sounds like the mule mad jack had in the grizzly Adams TV show... If it gives you any trouble you can call it #6 or 7

 

[Oldbiscuit]

Well I got a couple of things accomplished on the build this past week. First I removed the long dipstick casting on the block by cutting it off and retreading the inside for a pipe plug. I drilled the plug and brazed a dipstick the proper length to it. I think it looks better. The second thing was I built the gas tank and made the mounts for it. Next I’ll have to acid wash the tank, clean, etch and seal the inside. Slow progress, but I’m in no big hurry, the fun for me is in the building. It’s always kind of a let down once I finish a project.

 

[curtisfox]

Kind of a let down once it finished, is so true, seems once you have accomplished what you have done, it's like what next. But looking really good...........Curt