1. mike carter 2

    mike carter 2 Member

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    has any one realy built one of these little motors for more tork ? are there different port timeings ? any tricks? i allready added header leangth raised the compresson some rm 60 x chamber, reed valve, ported piston. the bike wiil fly. pulls pretty hard now but i live on a hill and want more bottom end
     
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    Long pipe "Poopoo" exhaust' more compression, (wide ported) cylinder lowered and deep camber RSE head did it for me. Could pull away from a stop with 44t sprocket, but only had 35kph or so max speed.

    Steve
     
  3. mike carter 2

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    hey sbest what do you mean by a "lowered cylender "
     
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    Remove the studs, cover the crankcase and file the basegasket surface smooth.
    Now seat the cylinder to the crankcase using no basegasket, just ThreeBond or Yamabond sealer. You may need to make some adjustments to the cylinder head with gaskets or chamber cutting to keep the proper squish height. Result is dropping the ports 0.025" or so and a lower rpm powerband and more torque.

    Steve
     
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    which rear sprocket are you running?
     
  6. mike carter 2

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    im running a gt 80 engine. a 40 tooth gear. bike will pull from about 3 or 4 to about 30 or 35.i had a 36 tooth sproket on it and could get to over 40 but im trying to make more bottom end and not lose to much top end. bike pulls hard now
     
  7. mike carter 2

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    come on guys , more tork meanes a quicker bike.quicker means faster,i think you can allways tune for more top end . if i can build enough bottom end i can change from 40 to 36 rear gear agian . i was going over 40 easy with the 36 cog. there has to be more secrets. dnut
     
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    I would think "tork" is torque spelled phonetically, which would refer to the pulling force of the motor. More torque does not mean quicker, generally more horsepower does mean quicker and often means more top speed too, but circumstances can vary. Torque is the hp/rpm*5252, which means it always equals the hp at 5252rpm. Quicker does not mean faster, and often the two are diametrically opposed. Gearing for quick will reduce speed and vice versa.

    I was able to get just over 40mph with a 44 tooth. Imagine what I'd get with a 36t? That can be done with ratio and proportion actually, 44x40/36=48.8mph. Key word is imagine, you have to have the hp to get it there.

    Tell me what I can "allways tune for top end"? I'd love to know.

    Steve
     
  9. Tyler6357

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    An expansion pipe with a 15" header will give you extra low end power.
     
  10. mike carter 2

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    thanks to people like you theres a ton of information on this forom on how make more top end .im kinda a newbie .i live on a hill. i have a gravle driveway.rite now i have to turn into my driveway at high speed ;bounce up the rough part. wait for just the rite speed to start peddling,peddle like **** and try to get to the top. no doubt anyone watching would laugh there a__ off. it even makes me grin .o yea. im 57
     
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    Here's more Tork

    I'm sorry but I just couldn't stop myself.
     

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    dance1 thanks just what i needed
     
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    Hey Mike you old fart!
    I'm only 56, but remarkably immature for my age...

    Steve
     
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    +--------------------------
     
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    what i mean by more 'tork' is that it will make your bike quicker in the curves .comeing out of curves going into straghts. helps make up for some straightaway speed.more bottom end could make up for a lot in the long run.
     
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    Mike, the technical word you're looking for is oomph. I'm seeking the same. I am going to install an expansion chamber tuned for low and middle and get a smaller rear sprocket. I only need to go about 33 mph but want to get there fast and cruise at a bit lower rpm.

    Dave Letterman used to say "it ain't the horsepower, it's the torque."
     
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  17. mike carter 2

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    all rite ,everyone convencined me, im shaveing the head again
     
  18. Tyler6357

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    Don't you mean cylinder? You shouldn't try to shave the head to reduce the squish gap

    brnot
     

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