Re: How come we're not seeing MBs with motors like these? There's a lot of wisdom in both of these posts. I think most of the parts in a kit are junk but the motor itself is pretty good and just it alone is worth the price of the kit. As far as the mind set of motor bicyclers, that may change in time. We're still in the early days where most people still have never heard of motor bicycles. If people are willing to spend huge bucks on a karting hobby, I'm sure there are plenty of people that would be willing to spend just as much for high end motor bicycles once they become popular. Don't worry though, I'm sure the cheap ones will always be available too.