electroplating my own parts

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  1. kbot6789

    kbot6789 New Member

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    it will later on after its plated because the metels will not have a good bond in the rusty area and evently the rust will come to the surfice but you can prolly plate it in copper then plate it again in what ever but make shure to get a good coat of copper on it and this might prefent the rust from comeing to the surface after its platedjust make shure thares no pits
     
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    Re: DE-RUSTING PRIOR TO PLATING ??

    Harbor Freight has a cheap air media gun for de-rusting metals. That would help clean up parts that you can't get into bends and crevices.

    The really good thing here is the non use of acid (vinegar is a weak acid) and that to me is the genius of the whole thing.

    I can see cleaning and plating the bolts that hold the Manic Mechanic sprocket and hub adapter. The sprocket and adapter look great, but the fasteners have already rusted. Likewise same is true for a lot of the 5mm socket screws holding the rack and under seat fuel tank.

    So how to clean these parts for plating without using sulfuric acid?

    Jim
     
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    Hmmmm.... no pits on a sand cast, cast iron engine. Huston, we have a problem!
    Darn! :(
     
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    im just sayin no pits if you want a nice smooth surface
     
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    Uhhh... no.

    If there is rust on the base metal and you cover it with paint, plating, etc. without treating the rust it WILL bubble the paint, chrome, etc. eventually.

    The corrosion will continue unabaited if not removed or treated. In fact, depending on what is used to plate, you may even exacerbate the situation by introducing "bi-metallic corrosion".

    Just a word to the wise from a guy with airframe metalworking experience. ;)
     
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    eh im just trying to save them a few bucks what they do with or how is up to them bob no offence bud
     
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    Rust Removal & Plating Metal Source

    kbot6789, do you have a chemical way of removing rust?

    Where might I find nickle strips for plating?

    Inquiring minds need to know.)

    Jim
     
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    you can get nickle from soldering wire its like 95% nickle 5% tin it works great for plating any plumbing supply store will have the thick stuff just make shure thares no lead in it because useing led makes acid
     
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    None taken... just wanted to be sure everyone understood that plating wouldn't stop the corrosion process if untreated.

    Knowledge is power...
     
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    I have a solution called metal prep that you can brush or spray on that turns rust into iron phosphate. If I brush off the powdery residue that it leaves, perhaps with a bit of alcohol for thoroughness, do you think that the phosphatized surface will be a problem? I ask because it is intended as a pre-treat for priming and painting. Primer will stick to it well, but I have no idea concerning plating.
     
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    ok so you guys wanted picture and explations here they are
     
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    in this picture i mixed some salt vineger and hydrogen peroxide like i told you before . now i'm useing brass so you can see whats happening. copper nickle zink brass .but for this i chose brass you so you can see anyways in this picture i have the brass on the positive and the nail as my negative now my connection to the brass is above the vinager line because if its below the vieger line it will eat your connection the darker bottle the the finished solution
     

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    this is the color your going for if your gonna do brass... my brass solution is done
     
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    your not making a brass plated sandwich are you ?
     
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    shh tell nobody dice
     
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    I ask about de-rusting a while back, but it was buried in one of my lengthy posts.

    I have wire wheels on angle grinders and an air powered media blaster, but don't think they will work on the threads and sockets of the bike bolts?

    How do you remove rust from fine threads before plating?

    Jim
     
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    honistly jimi dont but i di know that thare are derusting how to vids on youtube with electrolisis
    even mine i get flash surface rust and i still gotta clean it of befor playing bud
     
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    #3 permalink,,,That is a beautiful cat
     
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    his name is Bao he is whats called a bangel leapord he is a half breed mix between a asain leapord and a siamiese he is about 30 lbs
     
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    and thanks
     

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