Definition changing petition

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Chaz

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I don't like that you call us close minded people. Go ahead, list all of the advantages. Perhaps we will be persuaded.

If you don't have the patience or the time to convince us then you won't be able to convince anyone else.
 
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bairdco

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In the event that your petition is taken seriously, and our bikes were classified at some national level standards, it would probably give cops more reason to crack down on custom bikes easily capable of exceeding a national speed limit, and cause riders much more hassles to build bikes that are legal, with all the mandatory safety equipment, as well as having to have them inspected, registered, and documented.

Many states, cities and towns let these bikes fly under the radar, and by bringing attention to them at a national level would make them enforce laws (mostly already on the books) that they were previously ignoring.

Asking a federal government to allow you to basically go faster, seems pretty pointless, as trying to explain to any lawmaker that you want to go 50+mph on a walmart bicycle would sound pretty stupid to them. Or to anyone, for that matter.

If your town sucks to ride in, move. Or get another hobby. Don't drag every state down with you.

That's my opinion.
 

dogcatcher

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If you want federal laws about motorized bicycles, then you will have to do a lot of reading, you better know the National Transportation Act frontwards and backwards. Just my 2 cents, most bicycles without a motor most bicycles wouldn't pass the standards for safety. Add a motor and more stuff will be the end of riding on public roads with a motorized bicycle. Not to even mention that the engines would not pass the federal EPA clean air standards. Stirring up a hornets nest and will get you stung. In this case getting the federal government will get you nothing but an end result of that could make all the motorized bikes are illegal.

Trying to claim the "Scooter" category you have to follow this set of rules.
6. Scooters that are not motor vehicles

The following scooters or scooter-like vehicles are not “motor vehicles” that must be manufactured to comply with all applicable FMVSS and be so certified to be lawfully imported into the United States:

  • Scooters lacking seats that are operated in a stand-up mode.
  • Scooters that are incapable of a top speed of 20 mph or greater.
  • Electric bicycles with operable pedals, and an electric motor of 750 watts or less, whose maximum speed on a paved level surface, when powered solely by such a motor while ridden by an operator who weights 170 pounds, is less than 20 mph.