Hi Thanks Kirk.....I will probally have to leave it up the spring maker...I have several photos of the buggy leaf spring on the Excelsior...It has 3 leaves with 2 that wrap around the main leaf for safety.... I will have to work out the balance weight with a rider at the pivot point of the rear wheel...probally 300lbs with the motor I will be useing.......I am 150 lbs ... but a lot of 6 ft people would be 220lbs engine 60lbs...frame and wheels 60lbs?.....