Hi Easy Rider, No I hadn't seen those. They look nice. But I have to tell you that getting into the idea of making my own. No offense against what anyone else might have. It may be that I'm biting off more than I can chew but I'm going to find out if it's possible to make my own. Can't really lose 'cause my neighbor will be doing all the work. Me... I'm the brains behind it all (lol)... I appreciate your help. I can't believe that everyone is being so helpful about this... thanks everyone!