Bogging and Squealing Mystery

Now now before everyone starts mentioning that clutch let me describe the situation:

I built three new bikes (2 cruisers and a mountain bike) for some folks down here. I have a specific problem with the cruisers though. They turn on fine, idle great, run smooth, but there is a mystery noise I can't figure out.

This happens when I'm either starting from a slow speed or when I'm at speed while letting go of the throttle close to completely. It does not make noise when accelerating at moderate speeds. I understand unthrottling could explain the bogging but I get this hiccup type squeal from the engine. At first I thought they were defective motors but that would just be too big of a coincidence and they run fine all other areas.

I adjusted the clutch and still nothing.
Then I put some high performance grease on the gears and then again nothing.
I adjusted the carb to a high acceleration and following s nothing.

I'm running out of ideas and unless my recent thread
Title: Carb needle clip settings (can't post links?)
can explain this issue, I'm not too sure what else it could be other than a pooped motor/clutch.

well its either your clutch rubbing on clutch cover or it could be your engine or bike wheel bearings.

Checked the clutch cover and its clearing,
Checked the wheel bearings and they perfect,

How do I go about checking the engine bearings?

My dad and I were thinking about it and thought possibly it could be because of bike and engine speeds gap. Perhaps since the engine with no throttle isn't reving high enough and the bike is going a bit faster could this be sorta forcing the trans?

Again this has proven to be quite the case

what gas and oil ratio are you using?
and when you let off the gas at higher speeds it will bog down and made a noise like if youre driving a manual car in 1st gear.

The beach cruisers are still being broken in so around 18 to 1 give or take

And yes, I realized the noise was slightly present on my commuter when letting go the throttle too.

Cabinfever1977 said:

what gas and oil ratio are you using?
and when you let off the gas at higher speeds it will bog down and made a noise like if youre driving a manual car in 1st gear.

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So does it mean the noise is strictly from that effect?

If so, why is it so much louder and profound on the cruisers?
I'm guessing because they're new?

im not sure what it is,mine squeals when im moving at a good speed,but i think its my clutch rubbing on my clutch cover(im going to put a double gasket on).when i let go of my throttle from a good speed it kinda whines down like a car in first gear.your noise sounds like either not enough oil or it just mite be the clutch breaking in.maybe someone else on the forum had this problem and can help.

I think if it were the clutch rubbing it's be apparent more often.

Although the whining down you described is a perfect depiction of what my problem entails.

Hope we can find either a solution or if its just these engines that do that.

maybe you can try pulling the clutch in when coasting,that will get rid of the noise. i heard that is what you are suposed to do when coasting down hills or if the bike is moving faster than the engine is reving.

Pulling the clutch works like a charm takes away the noise and all, so I'm guessing its just the engine rev and bike speed matching that causes this noise.

Well I guess as they get broken in it will dull out like on my commuter bike. Thanks for everything!

no problem,it works for me too.

edman,

remove the clutch cover and have someone pull the clutch lever.

With the clutch released check to see how much play is in the clutch gear.

There should be very little play in this gear! If you can mover it around 1/64", It will only be a matter of time before it fails completely.

Excessive gear whine, means that they are not meshing correctly.

Jim