Rätte-Hengel...

Discussion in 'Board Trackers and Vintage Motorized Bicycles' started by Mr.B., Jun 26, 2017.

  1. Mr.B.

    Mr.B. Well-Known Member

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    Hello,
    It’s been quite awhile since i’ve finished anything or started something new, but here we go- Rätte-Hengel;

    My friend Chris recently ask me if i would build a Ratty vintage bike for him. He initially sent this picture of stuff he mocked up himself on his garage floor-

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    His mandate for me was build something Ratty, or perhaps even post-apocalyptic. He would supply all the parts new & old. He doesn’t even want to see any progress photos until all done and running, he’s a very creative guy so it surprised and flattered me that he didn’t want any input.

    I like to name all of my projects and because of his Dutch heritage i’m calling this one “Rätte-Hengel” which is probably actually a bad Google translation of “Rat Rod”. But hey it has a nice poetic flow in English. LOL!

    Chris is a flea market king and always seems to have a lot of interesting vintage stuff on hand, along with the frame in his concept photo he sent this big pile of stuff to work with. We agreed to also use that big old white Tecumseh 5HP engine shown here instead of the little 2 stroke snow thrower engine that was in his original photo.

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    But sadly i didn’t realize the pto shaft had been cut short and wouldn’t work with the Torue-O-Verter CVT I was planning on using until i started taking tins off. So I ended up buying an inexpensive CX200 Honda clone from Harbor Freight and tipped it upright for effect. Perhaps it’s just as well since there will be less risk from an vintage engine of unknown internal condition.

    Because he is such a creative person i suggested that he could be responsible for distressing a new engine to match the rustiness of the rest of the bike, and i thought it might be a good idea to somehow give him some sort of input. But when my wife was throwing away a old coffee maker i couldn’t resist using this stainless steel tray, it fits the shroud just like it was made for it! Coffee stains to remain while under my care, Ha!

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    I decided to use the same frame that was in his concept photo, but to stretch the rear triangle out about 7 inches. I feel adding length to a old bicycle makes it feel a little more “man-sized” and comfortable to ride, and I think it just looks better too. I don’t have a proper aluminum frame building jig so I just cobbled up my own with some old wood...

    Before the cuts-

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    It’s always a little scary to cut a vintage frame so I only hope that I’ll do it justice in the end...

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    Because this build will only have a single brake I wanted it to be substantial. I’m going with a vintage Honda CB350 rear hub (I think that’s what it is?) and had to widen the rear stays nearly 5 inches to accommodate. I put solid rod inside the cut stays to beef them up, make it easier to get kink free bends, and it also helps to have a little extra meat while welding...

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    Also because this will have a powerful and heavy engine I’ve added several and very stout gussets throughout. The rounded one above the bottom bracket is 3/8" thick and will carry a jackshaft. And all new and any old tubing near the engine is reenforced with generous lengths black pipe sheaves internally...

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    Welded!





    To keep this a actual pedaling bicycle- I cut the treaded end off a BMX style freewheel hub and welded it to a triangelur plate so it can be simply be bolted right onto the Honda hub.I also decided to repaint the donor wheels. I don’t mind mixing a few odd colors in, but they were a truly awful shade of yellow (seen in the background of some of the frame pics). Plus i think the red really pops!

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    To get some real leverage for a motorcycle sized drum brake I’ve modified some old worn out Visegrips for the handle. And By dipping the vintage original white grip in boiling water for several seconds I was able to force it over the slightly larger throttle body without splitting it...

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    7-21-17 Edit: Just replaced as many of the broken Photo Bucket links as allowed...
     
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    The original fork was bent in about 5 directions and I wanted to build a custom leaf springer anyway. And for it to be very heavy duty!
    A nice robust vintage fork and some leafs trimmed down from a 1970’s Snowmobile (Thanks Curtis!) is a good start for the challenge of strength...

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    5/16” plate and rear stays from a vintage Schwinn 10 speed for the bracing and some 1/4” taps to add mass & wear surface to the dropouts...

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    Welded & bronze brazed!

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    For the rockers I stepped up to thick 3/8” plate to give them lots of wear surface, it took a couple of cutoff discs just to hack them out!

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    A little distressed paint to finish these parts off (btw, the camera flash makes that rust look much brighter that it actually is). Since with a leaf spring I only need 2/3 of a fender I decided to turn it around and use front end’s white triangle graphic & pin striping to match the back of the rear fender...

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    I probably spent 4 or 5 hours taking that fork off the bike, into a vise and back to tweak and bend the legs tiny amounts to get it to run true, level, and plumb, (worse than building a wheel with a old warped rim!) but I have it now and can finally begin to fab the front spring legs!

    Well, this covers all my progress retroactively. From now on I’ll post more regularly as work is finished!

    -Mr. B.

    7-21-17 Just replaced the broken Photobucket links...
     
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    It's gonna be epic!! I really like the imagination going into this!

    Just strengthens my case to bring home a welder!
     
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    Oh wow... THAT is awesome!
     
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    I like where you've got this build going, eclectic, eccentric and fun Rick C...
     
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    Fan Fookn Tastic! Lovin this one. Gonna be watching!
     
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    You are welcome Mr.B, they make nice spring forks. This is KOOOOOOOOOOOL got to watch and read, Lol.

    Sure like your creative work, has inspired me on mine.......................Curt
     
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    How about you are never lost till you try to build a home made motorbike without a welder.........Curt
     
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    Thanks for the nice comments everyone!

    No new progress to share yet, but i’m scheduling all day Sunday Sunday Sunday to work on it.
     
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    Very cool. I'm looking forward to pics on Monday, Monday, Monday!
     
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    LOL! Crank the reverb brother!
     
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    Another wonderful build.

    Steve
     
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    Pretty much finished fabbing the forks...

    I discovered that if i really bent the old snowmobile springs they somewhat stayed bent...

    Not really a desirable trait for a spring in a springer suspension fork.

    To help with that i decided add an additional full length leaf from a car. Shown 3rd down, and trimmed a bit on the sides to match the taper a little. (something my auto mechanic gave me and possibly from a Mercedes?)

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    It stiffens everything up more that i like but i feel way better about it wanting to eventually sag.

    For the front legs i found these forged lag screw fence gate hinge pins at a home improvement center to use them for eye bolts. I cut the lag screw end off, cut and pounded the pins out, drilled those to size and then die cut 7/16” 20 threads to the shank.
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    I used 1/2” tube for the in-betweens and tapped the ends. I also put solid rod inside to help make kink free bends and add some extra strength (measure three times, cut once).

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    Here everything’s fit together and awaiting brazing the eyes. I also still need to drill cotter pin holes in the axles (all grade 8 bolts) and trim off their excess...

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    Hoping to work on it again later today!
     
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    Genius!!
     
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    So much talent displayed here. I've seen Kirk's work up close and ridden next to it too.
    Every member should have that opportunity. Thanks for sharing this build with us, sir.

    Tom
     
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    Absolutely. I've can vouch for this assessment! Had a good tour with Kirk on the Scarecrow Run.
     
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    Great re-purposing of those eye bolts. Love it!

    The downside of having this vision is that every scrap of any material is potentially useful. I'm a borderline hoarder.
     
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    Cool..cool...very cool!
     
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    Ha! I hear ya!

    A few years ago i did do a massive cleaning in my basement and actually got rid of a lot of stuff (lots of scrap wood from various house restoration projects too).

    I organized things, shelfs/storage bins for like objects, racks for tools, dedicated work stations, etc... But it is getting pretty cluttered again! It never ends!
     
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    I’ll see if Chris will want to join us for Scarecrow Run #4 (if i finish it by then? HA!)
     

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