Long trip planned-- advice welcome!

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  1. Bob Mac 18704

    Bob Mac 18704 New Member

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    Another thing to keep in mind is,what if it starts raining and your 20 miles from nowhere. I can pretty much guarantee the ht engine will die a slow death. Not to mention how well you waterproofed the rest of the wiring. The ht,s are a nightmare when it comes to water. I don't know how good the 4 strokers are so I can't comment on them. I just did a honda 50 with a q-matic and if their was any bike I would try a road trip of that distance, it would be that one. The wiring on this honda looks pretty waterproof but I wont know until I get caught in the rain. Then I'll let you know. I'm sure someone on this site can chime in on the 4 stroke engines.
     
  2. fall_down_stand_up

    fall_down_stand_up New Member

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    Yes the EZM Qmatic would definately be your way to go being you dont want to pull a trailer and need the back rack for panners....I hear nothing but good things about the Qmatic(bullet proof)....Also buy some armadillo kevolar tires,they are punture proof and will save you alot of trouble on the road....
    John
     
  3. ilyasemail

    ilyasemail New Member

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    I was thinking I'd buy some cheaper tires and reinforce them on the inside with duct tape and electrical. Read a thread about someone doing this successfully. Either way, replacing some tubes wouldn't be a big deal on the road.

    I'm definitely set on the EZ Qmatic and an upgraded back wheel with 12 gauge spokes. Gonna start looking for a frame that will fit me and the engine soon.
     
  4. MotorBicycleRacing

    MotorBicycleRacing Well-Known Member

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  5. moonshiner

    moonshiner New Member

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    riding a bike 1000 miles , i would go quality all the way including the tires , you won't be disappointed ..usflg
     
  6. fall_down_stand_up

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    Ferball,im sorry if I came off a little hard on you(no insult intended)....
    John
     
  7. bigbutterbean

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    i dont think bike reliability is something to be worried about. i ride a $75 huffy cranbrook from walmart that i have had for almost a year and the only thing i have changed is to put in a wider pedal crank for better engine clearance. the standard pedals had plenty of clearance, but i was using an engine with a centrifugal clutch. as far as the engine, i have had 48cc engines and a 66cc engine and never noticed any real big difference between the two. first thing is make sure whatever engine you choose is well broken in before taking a 1000 mile trip. i would take an extra engine just in case. i personally have done 100 miles in one day on a 48cc engine. that was about 6 hours of riding for me, with maybe a one hour break after the first 50. you could probably go 100 miles without stopping, then take an hour break, stretch the legs, eat, walk around, and maybe get in another hour or two before making camp for the night. dont run at WOT constantly. take oil and a gas can with you. buy a bigger gas tank, or you will be refueling every 100 miles. unless you are going to register and insure your vehicle, keep an eye out for cops. research your states laws, as well as any other state you might be riding in. any hand tools you use to build the bike, take them on the road. 14g spokes are fine as long as you mount the sprocket correctly. in the event that you do break down and cant repair on the road, have an alternate way home. the more i think about it, 100 niles a day is decent. a 1000 mile trip could be done in ten days. then another ten days to get home.
     
  8. ilyasemail

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    About the subaru kit above-- I don't have the cash right this second, waiting for that sweet birthday money to come early summer (gotta love grandmas). Either way, I think I'd rather buy the $380 EZ kit that they will guarantee against defects than a used one from someone I don't know and wouldn't for sure know where to find. I'm not saying I don't trust that person (I don't know him), just that I'd be more comfy going with an official vendor.

    As far as the bike reliability, I'll think and read up a bit more on that issue. Thanks for input
     
  9. MotorBicycleRacing

    MotorBicycleRacing Well-Known Member

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    Your ideas on tires is going to teach you some life lessons the
    hard way probably at the very worst time LOL
    I thought you were an older guy........money from Grandma....lol

    Get the best tires like schwalbe marathons with max puncture resistance
    along with high quality tubes.
    Nothing worse than having your tires let you down when you are
    out on the road. Tires are the weak link on a reliable motorbike.

    I don't think that E-Z Cruisers in Dana Point sells EZ Motorbike Q Matic which costs more
    than $380????
    They have another 4 stroke kit.
    Please give a link to the actual kit on their website. What gearbox does it use?

    4 strokes use 9" wide cranks to clear the motor and gearbox.

    $75 huffy cranbrook from walmart [ bad idea ] using a Chinese 2 stroke to ride the West Coast is
    doable if you are Bairdco LOL but not a good idea for you.

    Some guys from Dana Point with a Chinese kit against an almost brand new GEBE
    kit with a Robin Subaru at about half price?
    giving advice to noobs lol is a hard road to hoe......PM me your phone # and I will give you
    some advice. No time to type it out. Google Augiedawg LOL
     
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  10. Drewd

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    i'm with a previous poster, tow a small trailer containing a replacement ht engine...they are cheap enough so a spare would be great as long as you don't forget the tools you'll need as a replacement.
     
  11. george_n_texas

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    Here's your solution to no rear mount reliable engine: FDF-358 Honda GX35 35.8 cc 1.60 hp four Cycle Engine: Staton Inc

    Front wheel drive! Plus it's a heck of a lot easier to take off the front wheel to change a flat!


    I'd still tow a small trailer...this is probably the same price as buying to HT kits and way more reliable!
     
  12. fall_down_stand_up

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    If you are truly serious about this trip,dont try and reinforce some cheap tires with duct tape or whatever nonsence you have heard....Spend the 45.00 each on some good tires and it will save you butt in the end....It sounds like you are trying to take the cheap way out on a very serious long trip and that just isnt going to cut it....Save you money up,get the right equiptment and have a fun,enjoyable trouble free journey....
    John
     
  13. ilyasemail

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    Bimoped, I'll take your advice on the tires, that issue seems to come up a lot around here. The kit is the following: EZ Cruizer: Leading Seller of Gas and Electric Bikes in Southern California

    It doesn't say what gearbox so I emailed them asking. They responded, "We have the bulletproof 5:1 ratio gear box that you want. TRUST ME you do not want to purchase the 4:1 ratio motor it will last you one ride and the bearing inside the clutch will disintegrate."

    Can you tell from the image which one it is? And yes, giving advice to noobs is tough (know this well from my work), so thanks for bearing with me while I learn this stuff
     
  14. MotorBicycleRacing

    MotorBicycleRacing Well-Known Member

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    It's a Grubee G4 gearbox. 5 to 1 ratio
    It is not an EZ Motorbike Q matic.
    EZ Motorbikes lawyers are surely firing off letters to E-Z Cruisers about their name LOL

    It is true what they say about the 4 to 1 ratio G4

    Bicycle-Engines.com are the main importer of that kit
    They are out of stock until May or until they change the date yet again. lol

    You really should get that GEBE belt drive with the Robin Subaru 35cc 4 stroke motor
    for your San Diego to Canada trip.
     
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  15. bigbutterbean

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    one thing I have done with duct tape is this. i have lined the rim with duct tape. this is NOT for reinforcing the tire walls. it is for extra protection between the spokeheads and the inner tube. my reason for doing this is because i had a problem once in the past with my spokeheads puncturing my tube. the duct tape also seems to slow the progression of rust. its just something i thought i would share. not saying its something everyone needs to do.
     
  16. MotorBicycleRacing

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