You would have 5001 members if you hadn't banned me!#9 Philip Hillis
2017 signaled a new day in the ebike world, and it’s when Facebook E-bike groups became as big and as influential as forums were. Philip Hillis started and runs probably the most active Facebook ebike group, the Sondors Storm Owners Group which has not only 5000 members, but is very active and has positive members.
I'm sorry about that Neil, it's not personal, but besides the fact that you drive people crazy with your continual negative comments, in order to be a member of the owners group you actually have to own a Storm, or be planning to buy one.You would have 5001 members if you hadn't banned me!
A lot of Sondors FB members act like cult members.
Oh yeah my Sondors is a mediocre but flashy eBike, The GF's Radrover is more than twice the bike in every way.
Congrats on your 9th place mention!
I still own a black/ yellow Sondors, paid $600 for it with 2 stock batteriesI'm sorry about that Neil, it's not personal, but besides the fact that you drive people crazy with your continual negative comments, in order to be a member of the owners group you actually have to own a Storm, or be planning to buy one.
You're not the first person I've heard say that, and it's probably true. You'll find the same cultish behavior with any brand of bike where the vast majority of owners love their bikes. You obviously weren't one of them.I still own a black/ yellow Sondors, paid $600 for it with 2 stock batteries
which is about what it is worth.
That's how I know it's a mediocre ebike when compared to my
gf's Radrover, personal experience.......
Some Sondors members really do display cultish behaviour about their
bikes and being in the club.
The size of the FB owners group is the result of the number of sales, not the other way around.I'm sure that's a driving force behind the Storm's wildly enthusiastic popularity, but having the largest eBike owners group in the history of eBikes probably doesn't hurt either.
Very true, massive sales definitely are a huge driving force behind the success of our independent owners group, one of several actually. We're just honored to be the biggest. Even though sales started over 2 years ago, the group is still growing rapidly. Since this article was written 2 months ago, we've already added another 725 members.The size of the FB owners group is the result of the number of sales, not the other way around.
I tell you what, I give you permission to join our group. If you can convince one owner you know what you're talking about, I'll give you a bazillion dollars lol.In regards to the cult like behavior, IMO it's a direct result to limiting the site to only Sondor owners. I'm a member of number of brand specific sites and none of them require ownership. People go to such sites to learn about a product they maybe interested in buying and want to learn more from people with real life experience. Members understand the pros AND cons of the products and are willing to reasonably discuss them. Most of those sites have members that own more than one brand. When you limit differing opinion things just turn into a circle jerk of people cheerleading their brands greatness.
The one and only thing that made Sondors sales big was the low initial price where you do get a decent value for the cost, allowing people to enter the ebike world when most bikes are priced much more. And that is an accomplishment, but there was\is nothing innovative about the bike other than the low entry price. The truth is the stock bike is lacking and needs quite a bit more money invested to make it on scale with most starter bikes that currently go for $1500 - $2000 new. In the end, once you modify the Sondors bike properly your right up to the same price point.
Probably because Endless-sphere.com forums is where the real action is, not their facebook group. If the sondors owners are happy with the bike and their group, more power to them.One thing probably worth noting, Endless Spear Facebook, which includes all brands of eBikes, and has been around longer than the Storm owners Facebook group, has over a thousand less members in their group.
What exactly have I said that you consider crap SR? Personally I'm thinking you're probably just a little jealous.Probably because Endless-sphere.com forums is where the real action is, not their facebook group. If the sondors owners are happy with the bike and their group, more power to them.
Your wildly enthusiastic hype about the bike fits in fine in your FB group but when you post that crap here someone needs to bring things back to reality. It's that sort of over the top statements that make you sound like a cult recruiter.
I just find your over the top cheerleading of a product that is far from innovative annoying. You make it sound like there is something exceptional about it when it's just old technology at a good price. It's successful because of it's low price and I agree you get a lot for your money.What exactly have I said that you consider crap SR? Personally I'm thinking you're probably just a little jealous.