A 1938 Hiawatha named Orange Peel

LabRat

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This 1938 Hiawatha named Orange Peel (OP) was discovered on CL forsale in Seatle. It was sometime in late sumer of 2011 and priced at $100. The call and the drive to West Seattle from Tacoma. As always turned around a few times in lower Seattle finally finding my mark; wow what a collector of stuff?

Begging the question where does the collector stop and the hoarder begin? Seller mentioned he was trying to make space and some stuff had to go. I wondered; selling off one bike going help?

This upscale home looked from my vantage point to be stuffed to the rafters. Like something you would expect to see in TV. As I started to peer around I could see epic bike/s part/s in the heaps. Pointing to a JC Higgins and stepping forward I could see the man start to become uneasy so I stepped back. I paid the man for my prize and left happy he let go of something and that something was now all mine!

The bike had no fenders. No spring forks. No seat and the wheels were not serviceable. The tires and tubes were however new. All the chrome bits had been spray painted silver. No concern as they are going to the side.

The B&W fenders were won on eBay. $38 plus shipping total. $58
 

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Re: A 1938 Hiawatha named Orange Peel (OP)

Wide three piece crank set. These kits are sold in a two part kit or as one complete set. If you are converting and old bike like this you need both or the 'full' set. $60 for the full set. Runing with the pedals that were on OP when she was purchased.

Complete set 3 piece crank and conversion $60 plus shipping. A weeks worth of parts boxes sits by the door. Parts for this build and for Project Puma Twin arriving now daily.
 

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Fabricating the engine mounting plate. The plate was a 4' piece of boxed steel I had cut and purchased locally for about $44 with tax. This was then split down its length with a jigsaw yielding 8' of engine mounting plate.

Note: Third picture shows a pair of blue Cleveland Welding pre war Shock Masters. EBay win $138 plus shipping.
 

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The steel parts and paint in my shop are 50f or less during the winter. Rattle can is warmed in a hot water bath to bring to warm. The oven is set to 170f. Parts are cleaned with a solvent. The clean parts are warmed in the oven for 15min. Parts are then painted while warm with warm paint. The paint sticks, it does not run as easy. The parts are then set in the 170f oven for 30min.

19mm carb purchased online with free freight $20.48. The intake was fabricated. Air Filter eBay seller $7.99.

Note: The kitchen oven vents directly outside of the house. There is little or no smell.
 

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Test fit conversion headset to modern mountain bike parts. This puts the bars out in front over the wheel. This lengthens the riding position helping to create the lay down look.

A drimmel is used to widen the truss rods for the large hub front brake.

Hub $59.
Custom cut 12g 234mm spokes w/brass nipples from holmeshobbies $44
 

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Everyone should know this sproket setup is from Pat of Sportsman Flyer. This is the third setup I have used and I like it as much as I do the first! Quality.

Sportsmanflyer 56t sproket and hub adaptor $90

Fourm member Sledge is seen lacing a wheel for the first time. If you look behind him you can see a lap top where we were following a youtube instructional video. Sledge is seen grinding the tips off a few bothersome spokes.
 

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Clubman bars! Scott Grips with used 1999 Yamaha 250cc dirt bike throttle controls like new eBay $28 Clubmans were $68 w/freight.

Seting up for some more fab work. Thinking of an air dam.
 

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Sorting where the mounting holes need to be drilled.

Engine mounted. Orange cloth spark plug wire eBay seller 6' $8. The brass end cap was also found on eBay $5. AGK jackshaft $135. The tires used in this build found on CL $20 for the pair w/tubes.
 

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The factory position seat post has to go! Testing the seat position/s. Cutting the post back. Fiting to fender support.The cost here is shop materials. Nuts and bolts from scrap bucket on hand.

The seat used here was purchased for $40 from a junk store.
 

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Just ordered a clutch. (placed on April 30, 2013 6:59:32 PM CDT)

Could not get one to work out of my parts box.

Photo op time.

Start work on the air dam under the engine. Finish the seat post.
 

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Another Nice build. I'm running a Gx160 carb on mine.Could you let me know the model and where you purchased your carb.Also interested how these engines run with out a shift kit.
 
Test fit the front fender. Wow! Just shocking to see it come together! No this bike will not see a repaint.
 

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Another Nice build. I'm running a Gx160 carb on mine.Could you let me know the model and where you purchased your carb.Also interested how these engines run with out a shift kit.

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Note: You can see the brass fitting that cost $5 on the end of the Orange cloth plug wire.
 

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The seat mount is cut from the 4/8" steel seat post.
 

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Here are some views with the feders inplace. These are never much fun to fit.
 

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And how about some Monark fender trim. Pin striped in matching Hemi Engine Orange.
 

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looking at what ur doing , I think I get the concept of the 4 stroke being mounted , just don't know how much more id have to spend for all the other parts to make it work .
 
looking at what ur doing , I think I get the concept of the 4 stroke being mounted , just don't know how much more id have to spend for all the other parts to make it work .

Gee I don't know Dave same as I pay? Pretty clear in the thread what my cost are and where I shop.
 
OOOH! Thats gonna be a humperthumper! Just guessing by the rear sprocket youll be able to climb some hills if they get in your way. Cant wait to see what you do for an exhaust. Nice touch with the orange retro plug wire :) and the fender trim is fantastic.
 
Photo one; sorting out the pipes. Sure like the bends around the front. But Came up with the second photo and welding it up. The third is a Photo snaped while cleaning out the shop. The two bikes look great together!
 

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