This thread is being started because of questions resulting from an announcement made in another thread http://motorbicycling.com/f3/firebelly-website-up-running-13419.html
transferred from other thread: Wanted to announce that in addition to continuing to develop the FBC "HardBox" all metal transmission for the Honda and Hua Sheng motors that Dan of Shelly Motorbike Co and I are working on a 4 stroke kit different from that currently available on the market. True to our convictions this kit will consist of as many domestically sourced componants as possible while maintaining a competitive value!
MaxPower asked: any price estimates on the 4 stroke kits and gear box?
Here starts the new thread:
We're excited w/ the initial cost estimates for sure, but I think it premature to be putting any real numbers out at this time.
The 4 stroke kits will be a very Competitive Value i.e. they will likely fall somewhere in the middle price range of what's currently on the market and will offer top of the line longevity w/ top of the line asthetics.
Dan and I agree that form and function are both extremely important in an industry where style and longevity are integral driving elements. We also agree that honesty, integrity, and transparency (w/o giving away our design info) are key to developing good customer relations. So feel free to contact Dan or I publicly or privately w/ questions, comments concerns etc.
So in the spirit of transparency a basic description follows. For customers who wish to take advantage of the best possible economy will be able to purchase the motor of their choice seperately from the supplier of their choice and those who wish to have a complete bolt on kit will be able to do so as well. The initial power plant available from us, at this time is set to be a 2.5 hp Lifan motor. The transmission is belt drive automatic. Final drive is chain. Since the objective is quality and value very few of the usual china kit parts will be utilized. High quality name brand chain, firebelly engine platform and tensioner kit, upgraded throttle and grips and many other uncompromized componants will make up the core of this kit. Though, in order that we may meet the veritable plethera of applications in the motorbicycling community we'll likely offer kits w/ subtle variations that should meet the particular needs and componant level of most builders w/o the need for further aftermarket upgrades. There will be a shift kit version available as well.
Dan and I will start rigorous testing of the kit shortly do to the infancy of the collaberation we can't really give hard numbers on time or price but the initial design is "in the can" and we're so excited about it that we couldn't wait to let the cat out of the bag.
So to sum it up, this project is in it's infancy and this thread will likely be slow moving at times, we're announcing the project now for the purpose of opening up discussion that will help us better understand the different needs of builders in order to build a kit of products that meets the needs of a wide range customers and give you the core of the mb community the opportunity communicate your ideas and needs. Of course we wish to foster excitement and anticipation but not hype, ambiguity or misinformation. Specific details are likely to change but the overall concept is unwavering.
Thanks for your interest! Evan FBC
transferred from other thread: Wanted to announce that in addition to continuing to develop the FBC "HardBox" all metal transmission for the Honda and Hua Sheng motors that Dan of Shelly Motorbike Co and I are working on a 4 stroke kit different from that currently available on the market. True to our convictions this kit will consist of as many domestically sourced componants as possible while maintaining a competitive value!
MaxPower asked: any price estimates on the 4 stroke kits and gear box?
Here starts the new thread:
We're excited w/ the initial cost estimates for sure, but I think it premature to be putting any real numbers out at this time.
The 4 stroke kits will be a very Competitive Value i.e. they will likely fall somewhere in the middle price range of what's currently on the market and will offer top of the line longevity w/ top of the line asthetics.
Dan and I agree that form and function are both extremely important in an industry where style and longevity are integral driving elements. We also agree that honesty, integrity, and transparency (w/o giving away our design info) are key to developing good customer relations. So feel free to contact Dan or I publicly or privately w/ questions, comments concerns etc.
So in the spirit of transparency a basic description follows. For customers who wish to take advantage of the best possible economy will be able to purchase the motor of their choice seperately from the supplier of their choice and those who wish to have a complete bolt on kit will be able to do so as well. The initial power plant available from us, at this time is set to be a 2.5 hp Lifan motor. The transmission is belt drive automatic. Final drive is chain. Since the objective is quality and value very few of the usual china kit parts will be utilized. High quality name brand chain, firebelly engine platform and tensioner kit, upgraded throttle and grips and many other uncompromized componants will make up the core of this kit. Though, in order that we may meet the veritable plethera of applications in the motorbicycling community we'll likely offer kits w/ subtle variations that should meet the particular needs and componant level of most builders w/o the need for further aftermarket upgrades. There will be a shift kit version available as well.
Dan and I will start rigorous testing of the kit shortly do to the infancy of the collaberation we can't really give hard numbers on time or price but the initial design is "in the can" and we're so excited about it that we couldn't wait to let the cat out of the bag.
So to sum it up, this project is in it's infancy and this thread will likely be slow moving at times, we're announcing the project now for the purpose of opening up discussion that will help us better understand the different needs of builders in order to build a kit of products that meets the needs of a wide range customers and give you the core of the mb community the opportunity communicate your ideas and needs. Of course we wish to foster excitement and anticipation but not hype, ambiguity or misinformation. Specific details are likely to change but the overall concept is unwavering.
Thanks for your interest! Evan FBC
