using a different type of oil?
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Re: converting to a new fule?
i am not sure. but ford first car he made ran on a hemp fuel.. i was thinking since 2cycle engine
is oil and gas mix. i was wondering if you could do a mix with high grain alcohol/ and some kind of oil such as hemp,vegie,soy,cottensedd oil.
i am not sure. but ford first car he made ran on a hemp fuel.. i was thinking since 2cycle engine
is oil and gas mix. i was wondering if you could do a mix with high grain alcohol/ and some kind of oil such as hemp,vegie,soy,cottensedd oil.
Re: converting to a new fule?
I would say yes but the engine would have to be set up right. The small made in China motors would be a good test motor. They are cheap and easy to take apart.
Figuring out the best mix would require a lot of testing.
Getting it to mix good in the first place might be hard. Converting the oil to biodiesel first will allow it to mix.
Reading the sparkplug tells alot and temp sensors don't cost alot.
http://motorbicycling.com/f30/how-read-your-spark-plug-9272.html#post89519
Go for it !
I would say yes but the engine would have to be set up right. The small made in China motors would be a good test motor. They are cheap and easy to take apart.
Figuring out the best mix would require a lot of testing.
Getting it to mix good in the first place might be hard. Converting the oil to biodiesel first will allow it to mix.
Reading the sparkplug tells alot and temp sensors don't cost alot.
http://motorbicycling.com/f30/how-read-your-spark-plug-9272.html#post89519
Go for it !
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Re: converting to a new fule?
This stuff says it will mix with methanol. It's made from vegetable oil.
TowerHobbies.com | Klotz BeNOL 2-Stroke Castor Oil Pint
Getting a good mix and the right ratio is important.
This stuff says it will mix with methanol. It's made from vegetable oil.
TowerHobbies.com | Klotz BeNOL 2-Stroke Castor Oil Pint
Getting a good mix and the right ratio is important.
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Re: converting to a new fule?
This 4 stroke kit runs on E-85. Uses a Robin engine.
http://www.mobibike.co.uk/
I think a Titan engine might be a good one to try and set up for e-85.
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This 4 stroke kit runs on E-85. Uses a Robin engine.
http://www.mobibike.co.uk/
I think a Titan engine might be a good one to try and set up for e-85.
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Re: converting to a new fule?
Right. Sold as e-85 at the pump, 85% alcohol with 15% gas in it so hopefully people won't try to drink it.
Castor oil is used for 2 stroke oil but I don't know about using hemp oil for lube in a 2 stroke.
Corn and hemp oil can be made into biodiesel and used as diesel fuel.
Right. Sold as e-85 at the pump, 85% alcohol with 15% gas in it so hopefully people won't try to drink it.
Castor oil is used for 2 stroke oil but I don't know about using hemp oil for lube in a 2 stroke.
Corn and hemp oil can be made into biodiesel and used as diesel fuel.
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Re: converting to a new fule?
Any oil would be better than none I guess.
If you want to burn corn in your motor I would look at a 4 stroke burning ethanol e-85.
The oil in the fuel mixture is not needed to lube the motor.
Yes, but the best reason to use good 2 stroke oil is that your motor might last longer.
Any oil would be better than none I guess.
If you want to burn corn in your motor I would look at a 4 stroke burning ethanol e-85.
The oil in the fuel mixture is not needed to lube the motor.
Re: converting to a new fule?
dont forget , changing fuels also requires different jetting to get the proper air to fuel ratio for the fuel that you are using .
i hope you get it figured out . keep us updated
dont forget , changing fuels also requires different jetting to get the proper air to fuel ratio for the fuel that you are using .
i hope you get it figured out . keep us updated
Re: converting to a new fule?
so i took the plung on my RAW motor that has 1500 miles on it. i found that vegtable oil/with olive oil
found out it will burn up too 450 degrees. i did a 20:1 mix using 91 fule. and have run 3 tanks so far with no hicups. smells like a french fryer mixied with gas going down the street. power seems the same. i just noticed that the oil leaking from the exhaust is a little thicker but not bad. i plan to take the carb apart soon and check it out. by the way everything is stock on the motor. I might add some SEAFOAM to my vegi/gas mix to see if the stickyness goes away. SO FAR SO GOOD
so i took the plung on my RAW motor that has 1500 miles on it. i found that vegtable oil/with olive oil
found out it will burn up too 450 degrees. i did a 20:1 mix using 91 fule. and have run 3 tanks so far with no hicups. smells like a french fryer mixied with gas going down the street. power seems the same. i just noticed that the oil leaking from the exhaust is a little thicker but not bad. i plan to take the carb apart soon and check it out. by the way everything is stock on the motor. I might add some SEAFOAM to my vegi/gas mix to see if the stickyness goes away. SO FAR SO GOOD
Re: converting to a new fule?
i,m going to guess that you are using new vegetable oil in your test . the real challenge is to use ( used vegetable oil ) . i vaguely remember a process in wich they add lyme or lye or borax to the used oil to clean out the oil . if memory serves me correct it also pulls out other undesireable qualities of the vegatable oil that make it better to use as a fuel . ( of coarse you don,t just add the stuff and run it in your tank . this is to seperate . not an additive )
if i can find the info . i,ll let you know
i,m going to guess that you are using new vegetable oil in your test . the real challenge is to use ( used vegetable oil ) . i vaguely remember a process in wich they add lyme or lye or borax to the used oil to clean out the oil . if memory serves me correct it also pulls out other undesireable qualities of the vegatable oil that make it better to use as a fuel . ( of coarse you don,t just add the stuff and run it in your tank . this is to seperate . not an additive )
if i can find the info . i,ll let you know
Re: converting to a new fule?
evrey one seems to go in the direction of lower voility fule YYYYY? has aney one tried colman qwick start camp naptha? just added to your mix? thers got to be other stuff out ther that goes better they once sold 110 octane from the pump and evry petrole substance is fungible so wat abought way hi test?
evrey one seems to go in the direction of lower voility fule YYYYY? has aney one tried colman qwick start camp naptha? just added to your mix? thers got to be other stuff out ther that goes better they once sold 110 octane from the pump and evry petrole substance is fungible so wat abought way hi test?
Re: converting to a new fule?
colman qwick start camp naptha, dunno what that is.
The higher the octane the slower the burn or bang, these fuels are generally run in higher compression engines around 10:1 and up. Our lil motor is 6ish:1 so it requires a fuel that will burn easier and faster.
colman qwick start camp naptha, dunno what that is.
Re: converting to a new fule?
I'm still trying to figure out why you want to burn vegetable oil.
It's expensive, doesn't lube the engine very well AND you are still burning oil.
If you must, burn castor oil, at least your engine won't disintegrate.
I'm still trying to figure out why you want to burn vegetable oil.
It's expensive, doesn't lube the engine very well AND you are still burning oil.
If you must, burn castor oil, at least your engine won't disintegrate.
Re: converting to a new fule?
You are using the wrong kind of castor, they make two types- one mixes with alcohol, one mixes with gasoline.
You are using the wrong kind of castor, they make two types- one mixes with alcohol, one mixes with gasoline.
