110cc 4-stroke ATV Fully Automatic Engine
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I saw one posted here that actually had pedal crank built into the engine...
can't find the link now though.
can't find the link now though.
I'm gonna do it! Why not? LOL
The 49cc looks small enough to be do-able on a normal bike frame. I'm not sure about the 110cc. It's just too big.
The 49cc looks small enough to be do-able on a normal bike frame. I'm not sure about the 110cc. It's just too big.
It's possible. All I know is the 50cc is $234 shipped new on ebay. Not bad at all considering that it already has the transmission on it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/49CC-50CC-BAJA-B50A112-4-Stroke-Engine-Fully-Automatic-/261300324147?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd6b68733&vxp=mtr
I think Crazy Horse messed around w/it some (OCC chopper), check his profile for threads ifn ya wanna: http://motorbicycling.com/member.php?u=5890
Yes & no... sorta? I think there's some variance between makes & sizes, depending on what make & what size - they're often close but not all are identical insofar as parts interchangeability but if you're just referring to mounts then yea, they're pretty much all the same lol
There's varying levels of clones ofc, I do know Lifan is fully interchangeable w/it's Honda equivalent (the CRF series) and so the 50 can take the 70 head etc., with the off-branded cloned clones your guess is as good as mine tho
They are all quite a bit better then you'd expect from such a low cost engine, far far better than the two stroke in-frame kits... which is odd given they cost roughly the same & given that drastic difference in quality even the 50 isn't to be underestimated
http://youtu.be/XKtDQo4lHlc
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Well the 110cc is rated at 9HP so I'm guessing that will be enough to even move your big load down the road with ease. LOL
They look high class for being Chinese.
If I had to use a 12 tooth engine sprocket as a chainring in order to fit the engine, then I'd do it. I'm not too big on pedaling anyway. LOL
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Heres one I have. It was built to be completely legal in Ga. Pedals function and it actually has a coaster brake and F&R hand brakes. Its a great engine to build around. I also built a Lifan 125cc, pretty fast. I have new complete 50cc auto clutch, 3 or 4spd, I cant remember. Make you a real deal on it!
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I wanted to build a bike with one of those lifan motors. Couldn't get any info out of anyone selling them about the automatic if it were just 1 speed.
Went with a 212. Still interested in a lifan. Maybe neat to run a manual shifter one?
Went with a 212. Still interested in a lifan. Maybe neat to run a manual shifter one?
Sometime ago I purchased a second hand Chinese mini-chopper with a 110cc automatic clone engine made by S F I . I broke down the chopper for parts and sold them off, but I kept the engine. I was told by the guy who sold the chopper to me that it was a two speed auto, but with the engine on the bench I have no way to confirm that.
They look like a great choice to me, especially the 50cc 4 stroke with pedals and gears. With gears you don't need as much hsp as with a single speed. To me these have a lot more appeal than a China girl 2 stroke. With pedals and a modest sized engine you'd probably draw little attention from the powers that be. Knowing me I'd probably go for the 125cc and find a sticker that says 50CC. Ha!
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49cc four stroke Lifan, auto-clutched, electric start: http://youtu.be/aQXKnt9hZzU
These horizontal CRF clones come in all flavors, just about every variation you can think of. While I'm running a 3sp auto-clutch - the full automatics are usually 2 or 3 speeds (I've a used 3sp full auto as a spare)... catch is there's so many different combos of displacements & transmission types that you'll need solid info from whatever vendor you might be considering purchasing from as otherwise you might end up with anything.
If the vendor doesn't know or won't answer - find another, there's plenty out there lol
Just some food fer thought;
A full automatic would be most desirable for motorizing a bicycle, not just for legality (shifting is not illegal everywhere) but due to the constraints we face...
Manual shifters are awkward with motorized bicycle applications, you've an extra lever & a gear shifter that need to go somewhere, that "somewhere" not impossible but difficult at best.
Semi-autos help with that issue by eliminating the clutch lever but you'll still need to shift "in flight" in certain circumstances, the gear selector located on the lower left side of the engine (same as a manual) it isn't the easiest to operate, like many (new) bikes it needs a solid, sure engagement. Lengthening the selector lever would help, better yet a redesign to a tank shift w/linkages.
Having said that the fact is I often don't shift at all even with my lil 49cc, I just leave it in my "cruise speed" range and pedal assist take offs, downshifting only if there's a monster hill and/or I've a bunch of cargo in the trailer... these clones (particularly the Lifan) are nothing like the in-frame two stoke kits, their quality and preformance far, far better than that or even what you'd expect for the price - because of that and in addition to the torque of a four stroke, shifting is an option but rarely a necessity.
These horizontal CRF clones come in all flavors, just about every variation you can think of. While I'm running a 3sp auto-clutch - the full automatics are usually 2 or 3 speeds (I've a used 3sp full auto as a spare)... catch is there's so many different combos of displacements & transmission types that you'll need solid info from whatever vendor you might be considering purchasing from as otherwise you might end up with anything.
If the vendor doesn't know or won't answer - find another, there's plenty out there lol
Just some food fer thought;
A full automatic would be most desirable for motorizing a bicycle, not just for legality (shifting is not illegal everywhere) but due to the constraints we face...
Manual shifters are awkward with motorized bicycle applications, you've an extra lever & a gear shifter that need to go somewhere, that "somewhere" not impossible but difficult at best.
Semi-autos help with that issue by eliminating the clutch lever but you'll still need to shift "in flight" in certain circumstances, the gear selector located on the lower left side of the engine (same as a manual) it isn't the easiest to operate, like many (new) bikes it needs a solid, sure engagement. Lengthening the selector lever would help, better yet a redesign to a tank shift w/linkages.
Having said that the fact is I often don't shift at all even with my lil 49cc, I just leave it in my "cruise speed" range and pedal assist take offs, downshifting only if there's a monster hill and/or I've a bunch of cargo in the trailer... these clones (particularly the Lifan) are nothing like the in-frame two stoke kits, their quality and preformance far, far better than that or even what you'd expect for the price - because of that and in addition to the torque of a four stroke, shifting is an option but rarely a necessity.
They did put a 2 speed auto in some of those choppers.
The one to avoid is the lifan with reverse, as the reverse has no lock out and will break when engaged whilst still moving forward.
I know cause I have one here, but great motor.
Fairly heavy though
The one to avoid is the lifan with reverse, as the reverse has no lock out and will break when engaged whilst still moving forward.
I know cause I have one here, but great motor.
Fairly heavy though
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Funny you should mention that Theon, given I've a tadpole recumbent I searched high & low for close to a year for the Lifan w/reverse and failed miserably - I found the engine type ofc, but no retailer that offered one lol
In the end it didn't matter, reverse being useless on a two wheeler I don't need it at all even with my trike, I just skitch back a bit using my feet or grabbin' the front wheels and "wheelchairing" it back... it'd be nifty sure and I wanted to add the "beep beep" safety thing trucks have just to be silly, but it's silly enough without it anyway I figure
The guy I purchased the chopper from had registered it as a 50cc moped. I have no idea how he'd managed to get away with that one as the NZ Police are very well aware that not all Chinese horizontal clones are 50cc and what's more the engine number on the crankcase says 110:xxxxxxxx.
