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Old 11-12-2011, 12:22 AM
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I see death waiting to happen...maybe a good episode for "1000 Ways To Die".
i looked at those pics an was reminded of a show I found on net flix called Yank tanks about the maintenance an survival of the old 50's cars in cuba since the embargo , well that welder if thats what you want to call it actually looks like the kind they have in cuba .
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:44 PM
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My welding experience is two little zzzttts last week on dropout extensions using a 110V Hobart under the watchful eye of Tinsmith (Dan), so I ain't exactly a welder. This thread is helpful for an old dog trying to learn new tricks, so thanks for the information here. Dan brought some steel scraps from the shop where he works for me to do some practice welding on... maybe by spring time I'll try making a steel gas tank for my Panther. I'm already hooked... welding is like magic.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:04 PM
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Welcome to the addiction, I mean MAGIC Silverbear!

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My welding experience is two little zzzttts last week on dropout extensions using a 110V Hobart under the watchful eye of Tinsmith (Dan), so I ain't exactly a welder. This thread is helpful for an old dog trying to learn new tricks, so thanks for the information here. Dan brought some steel scraps from the shop where he works for me to do some practice welding on... maybe by spring time I'll try making a steel gas tank for my Panther. I'm already hooked... welding is like magic.
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Old 11-13-2011, 12:20 AM
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I have an old alternator from a Chevette that I think is 60 amp and another not sure the amperage, but from a Ford Ranger which should also have a bit of punch. I suppose I could make a welder from those. Marine Alternators go up to around twice the amperage I saw checking some specs. They usually have large banks of batteries on sail boats so you can run inverters for AC power and still sleep cool at night without a diesel running.

My art motor bike might benefit from 60 amps DC, but the battery for field voltage and the alternator itself would add a bit of weight. The jack shaft has room for another pulley though.

The previous mention of dangerous ways of going about some things, well yea, you have to know what is right for you. Your #1!
I’ve seen where in Cozumel a pickup truck was being unloaded of gasoline for boats at a dock. The tailgate was a few feet off the ground. 55 gallon drums weighed a lot. What did I see happening….. they tipped the drums on their sides and rolled them off the tailgate to an awaiting old truck tire to cushion the fall from the tail gate. Then they rolled them down the dock and I guess they either had the power turned off to these two individual bare wires that carried AC wall outlet power down to the end of the dock. I made it out alive so I’m glad!

The other thing I saw at a hotel there for the course of a week, an outlet was being installed in a stone wall on the exterior to the hotel. A hammer and chisel was doing the job. About an inch and a half of depth was attained and still going on while I left. Power tools anyone? So it goes the guy sweeping the dust constantly along with the guy on the ladder chiseling away. Maybe a month it took, don’t know.

Getting the job done and having people employed is important so only the dangerous aspects are the ones that get me though!

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Old 11-13-2011, 10:17 PM
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go to the jeep cj forum and look up junkyardgenius and he'll show you how to wire up a welder from your alternator and still use it to charge your batteries on the cheep
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:52 PM
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I would actually like to try that alternator welder idea just to see if an how it works , then maybe one day stuck in the woods I could do some welding ! , but seriously I may try that .
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Old 12-24-2011, 07:58 PM
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Hi everyone.

I have a CH 110v stick welder, and have been thinking about a 110v HF flux core wire feed unit.

Is there any benefit to the wire feed, or would I be better off getting a bigger welder?

I've never done any MIG or TIG welding, only arc and Oxy-Acetylene welding, but I have been considering getting a dual purpose MIG/flux core welder and eventually learning to MIG weld.

I am thinking about the dual purpose welder because a lot of my welding is out in the open, and I would probably have problems with the shielding gas. I just don't know if one of the smaller ones would be enough to be versatile.

Should I consider one of them, or just go for a bigger arc welder?

Thanks in advance for your advice!
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Old 12-25-2011, 12:55 AM
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DRC

The welding with the MIG I was reading today in an instruction guide on welding said that it is harder to see if the is all adhering the two metals because of the gun in the way. It mentions if you look from the side you could tell better. Also it mentioned putting a bright light to shine on the work.

I wondered if the light would interfere with the auto shade helmet I have, but am going to check on that.

I did TIG but I have never welded all that great anyway. When I ground the weld I saw if it was good and if not went at it again.

One thing I can tell you is that with TIG you have to keep grabbing more welding rod and be careful not to go too far with the short piece left as fingers get hot through the glove and you'll be throwing the gloves off as fast as you can. I cut a bunch of pieces a head of time so I would not be tempted to be too frugal.

The 130 MIG I have for both Gas and Flux I have not enough time to get you an idea how well it works for me, but I have heard others using the 110 V welders have homes that the lights flicker and sometime trip the house breaker. Even so they feel happy with the welder they have that is comparable to mine.

Also check on the welder forums for the manufacturers, that is what I did and so went ahead and got one.

I also wanted to mention that per the mfr of the welder I have is that you can do thicker metal weld but only with the flux for some reason. Otherwise with AR CO it is less.

Note: *** check ads that mention MIG Ready *** I found out ahead of time but was OK with the additional options to buy so that Inert Gas Capable not just Flux Wire Weld.

One thing I have now is an extra gas solenoid that was really all was installed in the welder for them to say MIG Ready. That part is cheap compared with regulator, gauges, and hose that was additional to get and also included the same gas solenoid I already had as part of the welder purchase.

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Old 01-12-2012, 11:22 AM
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[QUOTE=Dirt Road Cowboy;352329]Hi everyone.

I have a CH 110v stick welder, and have been thinking about a 110v HF flux core wire feed unit.

Is there any benefit to the wire feed, or would I be better off getting a bigger welder?

I've never done any MIG or TIG welding, only arc and Oxy-Acetylene welding, but I have been considering getting a dual purpose MIG/flux core welder and eventually learning to MIG weld.

I am thinking about the dual purpose welder because a lot of my welding is out in the open, and I would probably have problems with the shielding gas. I just don't know if one of the smaller ones would be enough to be versatile.

Should I consider one of them, or just go for a bigger arc welder?

DRC, go with a tig/mig if you can find a quality one. Take a welding class if you havent done so already, you'll probably gain more insight as to which type of welding / welder will be for you. You can find one occasionally on C-list.

Practice practice practice, be safe and have fun! As for the horrible fright mig's they are ok for welding on bicycles but nlt much else, JMO!

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Old 01-14-2012, 10:51 PM
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I had a 110 flux welder it only had low and high step voltage. It's not very versatile its hard to adjust heat it. I've used a lot of welders and I would never choose a step voltage 110 over anything. If you want to mig and flux weld I would be looking at one of the bigger 150-170 lincoln or hobart or miller units. And wire it to 230 it makes a much more stable arc. You need the higher amp range if you are welding on thicker metal or its not really going to fuse the base metal. You can then dial it down and downsize the wire feed rollers for smaller diameter wire and get it to weld thin metal.

You guys really know your getting what you pay for right? I wouldn't ride a bike with a frame zapped together with a pos welder lol. Better take a class and have somebody show you around some equipment and get you going. If you only need short welds I have better luck running 1/16 size electrodes on my old lincoln buzzbox I pulled out of a field for 25 bucks. These old arc welders are all over the place but you need to wire them 230 on a 50 amp receptacle one size bigger than your dryer. Or you might go to a welding supply and the guy might be able to show you some stuff and explain the differences. One thing about mig welders is you have to be able to get contact tips and possibly drive rollers and nozzles other consumables. Better stick with the name brands you know you can get these parts for.
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