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08-10-2009, 03:58 PM
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#41 chain
So my stock chain that came with the kit broke off last week after about 200 miles of use, and ive read all the posts about the 41 chain so i went out to my local tractor supply co and bought the 10ft, no i just spent an hour trying to get a pin out so i could fit the chain, i have a park chain breaker tool and it would just not do it, it keep slipping off, i even tried use a dremel and a drill to give the pin on the chain a more grip but couldn't get it. in all my effort the pin maybe moved a 1mm, does any have any advice on how i should go about breaking the chain?
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08-10-2009, 04:07 PM
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Re: #41 chain
Grinding the end of the pin completely off helps. Grind it flush with the side plate then use a small punch and hammer. You need to support the chain level so you don't pound a kink into it. A 3/32" punch is what you'll need but some guys even get by with a nail. A general rule of thumb: The better the quality of the chain you have, the better quality chain breaker you'll need. Some of the cheaper dept. store breakers just won't work on a well built chain. They bend or break before the pin moves. I'm not familiar with the Park breaker.
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08-10-2009, 05:26 PM
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Re: #41 chain
Place a link over the hole of an old, smaller socket. Use a punch or nailset to drive it out, and back in when necessary. I've done this....well, too many times to count. I've never had to grind anything.
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08-10-2009, 06:03 PM
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Re: #41 chain
wrapping the chain around a sprocket is a nice tip.
grinding it flush is definitley the easiest way of getting it out, but you cant drive that pin back through (since its short) you would need to punch 2 pins completely out in that case and use a master link.
FTR i think its stupid that there isnt enough room to install a chain without breaking it.... makes me wonder if anyone has cracked a case yet when their chain broke and whipped the backside. i wanted to put a casesaver in jsut in case but there is NO room for that lol
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08-10-2009, 06:19 PM
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Re: #41 chain
I've found the easiest way is to just use a small socket, just a little larger than the pin to set the chain on then pound the pin as far through as it will go just using a hammer, then use a punch or something similiar, I use an old philips screwdriver ground down to the right size, to punch the pin rest of the way through.
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08-10-2009, 06:22 PM
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Re: #41 chain
the socket tip is also something i never thought of before!
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08-10-2009, 10:28 PM
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Re: #41 chain
thanks for all the replies, i didnt have an extra sproket laying around so wat i ended up doing was taking some metal strips that had holes for nuts to go through as my base anad i tried using a hammer and a nail but after abut 15 min and hardly any succes i went back to the dremel and made the pin flush and tryed my chain tool again and after a couple of trys of turning the screw on the tool as hard as i possibly could i finally got it =), the #41 chain runs so much better then the orginal, i wish i had put it on to begin with
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08-12-2009, 03:59 AM
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Re: #41 chain
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Originally Posted by am21
So my stock chain that came with the kit broke off last week after about 200 miles of use, and ive read all the posts about the 41 chain so i went out to my local tractor supply co and bought the 10ft, no i just spent an hour trying to get a pin out so i could fit the chain, i have a park chain breaker tool and it would just not do it, it keep slipping off, i even tried use a dremel and a drill to give the pin on the chain a more grip but couldn't get it. in all my effort the pin maybe moved a 1mm, does any have any advice on how i should go about breaking the chain?
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I have the same tool, breaking the chain was easy enough. I know the tool really isn't big enough for the chain but I just shoved it in and started turning. The hard part is getting it back in. The pin was sticking out and I had to tilt it in at an angle. It took a few tries but I got it together and the pin pushed the other side of the chain out so I used a pliers to snap the chain together and it's been working really good. I didn't want to use the master link that came with it.
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08-12-2009, 04:01 AM
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Re: #41 chain
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Originally Posted by 2door
Grinding the end of the pin completely off helps. Grind it flush with the side plate then use a small punch and hammer. You need to support the chain level so you don't pound a kink into it. A 3/32" punch is what you'll need but some guys even get by with a nail. A general rule of thumb: The better the quality of the chain you have, the better quality chain breaker you'll need. Some of the cheaper dept. store breakers just won't work on a well built chain. They bend or break before the pin moves. I'm not familiar with the Park breaker.
Tom
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It's a tight fit but I managed to shove the number 41 in the chain breaker.
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08-12-2009, 11:00 AM
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Re: #41 chain
A bicycle chain breaker's not really big enough to break #41 chain. They sell the proper tool at TSC for about $35. Yeah, pricey, but considering that you trash the light-duty breaker breaking the big stuff and it's then junk, you don't have to break much #41 before $35 seems like a bargain.
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