Although i'm a proud Australian, my feelings of disgust go towards the Victorian Police (and the Victorian government) for making Australia look like an international laughing stock by allowing legislation that enables Nazi style police tactics, supported by the utterly mindless road traffic laws that are forced upon the people, of which it has no relevance to true safety measures.
Lewis Hamilton was "NOT" behaving in a dangerous or reckless manner and there was no justification to make a highly trained and competent driver responsible for actions that were in no way dangerous or life threatening.
He exited a side street and the wheels were spinning as the vehicle straigtened up. At no time was the vehicle out of control and at all times the driver had full command of the vehicle.
Mark Webber was correct in his view of the incident and on a previous occasion, the head of Mercedes Benz mentioned that the Victorian governments preoccupation with connecting any form of speed to injuries and fatalities is false logic, when ignoring calls to dramatically improve driver training and situational awareness measures.
Furthermore, he made mention about the unlimited speed zones in Germany and people do not die by the thousands just because their vehicle travels at 31 miles an hour in a 30 mile an hour zone, or travelling above 60 miles an hour.
The Victorian government knocked back a proposal to have "all" young drivers pass an advanced driver training program before being allowed behind the wheel on public roads.
This proposal was automatically knocked back by the governments claim that advanced driver training causes drivers to be more confident and take excessive risks.
Basically their logic is to have all drivers trained to the lowest level of competency to increase safety and reduce road trauma.
I can say that i'm ashamed to be an Australian by the way the government took an aggressive stance to back the police force in a mindless display of overt belligerence to the people who pay their taxes to the support the system that supports their criminal code of conduct.
At the end of the day, idiots will be idiots, regardless of age or traffic laws
If those people make a decision to behave in a reckless and dangerous manner; failing to maintain control of their vehicle, no amount of ever constricting traffic laws will prevent them for doing so - they only end up targeting yesterdays law abiding citzen.
Mark Webbers words below:
Speaking out after fellow F1 driver Lewis Hamilton was caught by police doing a burnout in a Mercedes outside the Albert Park racetrack on Friday night, Webber said he had spent the past few days in Melbourne "dodging the ridiculous speeding and parking (rules) and all the nanny-state country that we have down here in Australia".
The comments prompted Norm Robinson to speak out just a day after learning his son Luke, 19, was killed when his car struck a pole at an estimated 160km/h at Lovely Banks, near Geelong, early on Sunday.
"Maybe if he loses a loved one in a car accident he might regret saying that," Mr Robinson told reporters on Monday.
Webber's remarks also raised the ire of Victoria's top traffic cop, Deputy Commissioner Ken Lay, who defended Victoria's tough stance on speeding and hoon behaviour.
"I'd be so bold to say, too ... that there's probably quite a few Mark Webber fans still alive today because of the work we do," Mr Lay told ABC Radio on Monday.
But Webber has won support from right-wing philosophical thinktank group the Institute of Public Affairs (IPA).
IPA spokesman Tim Wilson says Webber, from Queanbeyan in southern NSW, was spot-on.
"Webber's comments expose the incremental efforts by government to regulate and tax every part of our lives," he said.
"The problem is the government is introducing the nanny state bit by bit so most Australians don't notice how far we're down the path."
But Liberty Victoria president Michael Pearce said the Victorian government had been highly intrusive in its legislation surrounding the staging of the grand prix at Albert Park, suspending the normal rights of citizens to enjoy local amenities.
"Mark Webber should become familiar with that legislation before he shoots his mouth off about anti-hoon laws," Mr Pearce said.
"There was a raft of highly contentious legislation which deprived the residents of the surrounding areas of all their normal rights of protest and amenity, and this was so people like Mark Webber could engage in legalised hooning."
Lewis Hamilton was "NOT" behaving in a dangerous or reckless manner and there was no justification to make a highly trained and competent driver responsible for actions that were in no way dangerous or life threatening.
He exited a side street and the wheels were spinning as the vehicle straigtened up. At no time was the vehicle out of control and at all times the driver had full command of the vehicle.
Mark Webber was correct in his view of the incident and on a previous occasion, the head of Mercedes Benz mentioned that the Victorian governments preoccupation with connecting any form of speed to injuries and fatalities is false logic, when ignoring calls to dramatically improve driver training and situational awareness measures.
Furthermore, he made mention about the unlimited speed zones in Germany and people do not die by the thousands just because their vehicle travels at 31 miles an hour in a 30 mile an hour zone, or travelling above 60 miles an hour.
The Victorian government knocked back a proposal to have "all" young drivers pass an advanced driver training program before being allowed behind the wheel on public roads.
This proposal was automatically knocked back by the governments claim that advanced driver training causes drivers to be more confident and take excessive risks.
Basically their logic is to have all drivers trained to the lowest level of competency to increase safety and reduce road trauma.
I can say that i'm ashamed to be an Australian by the way the government took an aggressive stance to back the police force in a mindless display of overt belligerence to the people who pay their taxes to the support the system that supports their criminal code of conduct.
At the end of the day, idiots will be idiots, regardless of age or traffic laws
If those people make a decision to behave in a reckless and dangerous manner; failing to maintain control of their vehicle, no amount of ever constricting traffic laws will prevent them for doing so - they only end up targeting yesterdays law abiding citzen.
Mark Webbers words below:
Speaking out after fellow F1 driver Lewis Hamilton was caught by police doing a burnout in a Mercedes outside the Albert Park racetrack on Friday night, Webber said he had spent the past few days in Melbourne "dodging the ridiculous speeding and parking (rules) and all the nanny-state country that we have down here in Australia".
The comments prompted Norm Robinson to speak out just a day after learning his son Luke, 19, was killed when his car struck a pole at an estimated 160km/h at Lovely Banks, near Geelong, early on Sunday.
"Maybe if he loses a loved one in a car accident he might regret saying that," Mr Robinson told reporters on Monday.
Webber's remarks also raised the ire of Victoria's top traffic cop, Deputy Commissioner Ken Lay, who defended Victoria's tough stance on speeding and hoon behaviour.
"I'd be so bold to say, too ... that there's probably quite a few Mark Webber fans still alive today because of the work we do," Mr Lay told ABC Radio on Monday.
But Webber has won support from right-wing philosophical thinktank group the Institute of Public Affairs (IPA).
IPA spokesman Tim Wilson says Webber, from Queanbeyan in southern NSW, was spot-on.
"Webber's comments expose the incremental efforts by government to regulate and tax every part of our lives," he said.
"The problem is the government is introducing the nanny state bit by bit so most Australians don't notice how far we're down the path."
But Liberty Victoria president Michael Pearce said the Victorian government had been highly intrusive in its legislation surrounding the staging of the grand prix at Albert Park, suspending the normal rights of citizens to enjoy local amenities.
"Mark Webber should become familiar with that legislation before he shoots his mouth off about anti-hoon laws," Mr Pearce said.
"There was a raft of highly contentious legislation which deprived the residents of the surrounding areas of all their normal rights of protest and amenity, and this was so people like Mark Webber could engage in legalised hooning."
