My first engine sale to an 84 year old

fugit · Apr 21, 2012

Here is a 1950's schwinn this 84 year old is turning motorized. This was my first engine sale. Look at the rear wheel closely and look at how he cut the sprocket to fit the disk brake hub and then attached with his own metal rods to the rim.

He has got some tweaking to do and some painting but it is fun watching him go wild

He is pictured in one photo.

More pics to come soon as he moves forward..

scotto- · Apr 21, 2012

Disc brake hub?

dnut

fugit · Apr 21, 2012

scotto- said:
Disc brake hub?

Well it is two brake pads and when pulling the lever it pushes out against the hub. Not sure if ya call that a disc brake or not... But first one I ever saw.. maybe a drum brake...

scotto- · Apr 21, 2012

fugit said:
Well it is two brake pads and when pulling the lever it pushes out against the hub. Not sure if ya call that a disc brake or not... But first one I ever saw.. maybe a drum brake...

Yeah I'm thinkin more in the line of a drum brake, from what I can see. A little hard to tell from the pics.

fatdaddy · Apr 21, 2012

Yeah fugit, it's a drum. I've got one a lot like it in the "pile-O-wheels" I have in my shop. (Right next to my "pile-O-frames".)
fatdaddy.

flmotorbikes · Apr 21, 2012

How'd you get that thick chain to fit in that tight space

fatdaddy · Apr 21, 2012

flmotorbikes said:
How'd you get that thick chain to fit in that tight space

"U.S.A Built Motorized Bicycle Kits"
Huh??? Ain't Honda made in Japan? Or do they have a U.S. factory? Anyway, It's still a Japanese product. (Ain't it?)
fatdaddy.

wayne z · Apr 21, 2012

fatdaddy said:
"U.S.A Built Motorized Bicycle Kits"
Huh??? Ain't Honda made in Japan? Or do they have a U.S. factory? Anyway, It's still a Japanese product. (Ain't it?)
fatdaddy.

My '96 Honda Shadow 1100 ACE was assembled at the Honda plant in Ohio.

dragray · Apr 21, 2012

wayne z said:
My '96 Honda Shadow 1100 ACE was assembled at the Honda plant in Ohio.

where something is assembled and where something is manufactured are 2 different things.
manufactured in japan, assembled in Ohio.

fatdaddy · Apr 21, 2012

dragray said:
where something is assembled and where something is manufactured are 2 different things.
manufactured in japan, assembled in Ohio.

Exactly dragray. Those are two entirely different things. Just because it's assembled here don't make it a U.S. product.
fatdaddy.

wayne z · Apr 21, 2012

fatdaddy said:
Exactly dragray. Those are two entirely different things. Just because it's assembled here don't make it a U.S. product.
fatdaddy.

I know that all Hondas are Japanese products. I'm just glad that they have assembly plants here. Gives us some jobs and money to spend here.

5-7HEAVEN · Apr 21, 2012

Note the five steel straps bolted from rim to engine sprocket, for extra strength.

Thoughts?

fugit · Apr 21, 2012

How'd you get that thick chain to fit in that tight space

I am not building bike he is. I will take pictures as he gets done and post. I will also ask him questions. He isnt very good on computers at all being 84 years old. He actually still works driving his own dump truck too

Hope I am so active at 84

I just thought his ideas and build was interesting so I would post it here for him and us to see.

Note the five steel straps bolted from rim to engine sprocket, for extra strength.

Thoughts?

haha right, this is the idea he had all along before making a decision on the motor as to how he was going to attach the sprocket. I cant wait to see the final result. And, who knows what he will run into as the build evolves - we will see

fatdaddy · Apr 21, 2012

wayne z said:
I know that all Hondas are Japanese products. I'm just glad that they have assembly plants here. Gives us some jobs and money to spend here.

Yer right wayne, we need all the jobs we can get in the U.S., But ya gotta realize that most of the REAL money goes back to Japan.
fatdaddy.

2door · Apr 21, 2012

Follow the money. It might be assembled here but watch where the profits go. It's Japanese and calling it otherwise is misleading and false advertising.

Back to the topic of this thread. I want to see the finished product with the man riding it. That is inspiring and interesting. Thanks for posting it, Fugit.

Tom

fatdaddy · Apr 22, 2012

Thanks 2door, Yer right. this thread is about a very cool bike and a very cool old guy putting it together. It just kinda irritated me when I went to his ad to look at a U.S. built kit and saw Honda this and Honda that. It just aint right and I had to say so. But, like you said, back to the bike.
It looks like the dude is taking his time and trying to do it right. It's gonna be a sweet bike when he's done. It makes me want to pull that old drum brake wheel out of my pile and really check it out for my next build. I wish the best of luck to the guy on his build. I don't think he's gonna need any luck though, Looks like he's got it all under control.
fatdaddy.

Cavi Mike · Apr 22, 2012

Those home-made spokes worry me. It's not how they look or even how they're mounted, it's that they're perpendicular to the rim and sprocket aka radial. They are going to twist back-n-forth. Not a good idea by any means.

curtisfox · Apr 22, 2012

Yep I was looking and if its not welded to the hub,they need a second bolt inboard coleser to the hub to keep it from flexing................Curt

wayne z · Apr 22, 2012

curtisfox said:
Yep I was looking and if its not welded to the hub,they need a second bolt inboard coleser to the hub to keep it from flexing................Curt

You're right. Slightly longer straps with 2 bolts as far apart as possible there.

Or maybe some triangulation bracing added with some short pieces of strapping .

fugit · Apr 23, 2012

Do you guys mean you think the rim will flex while tension is put on the sprocket by the motor?

Those metal spokes he made are very hard and durable steel.

I expect to see him again this week and will pass along any ideas or concerns you have for him.

I may in fact be the guinea pig that test rides it too

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