I will try to post a picture of her tomorrow. I have a spoiled Australian Shepherd. She bitc&es at me. I am about to go out of my mind, what little there is left of the thing. Yes they are very smart and know how to manipulate. And for those that don't know an Australian Shepherd came in to being in Arizona or Western U.S. not Australia. I do love the Aussies but I'm not letting them lay claim to the Australian Shepherd.