New Jersey...My question is:

Can't help you out but I'm loving that F-bomb!

That camaro in your profile avatar. Its a f-body,right?

This is the New Jersey that I want.

Well don't I feel foolish.

I would imagine that New Jersey is just like the other 49 states. Build it, pass an inspection by your DMV and apply for a title.

Massdrive, all of the states don't require DMV inspection, and I think it's over the top. I can see a requirement for rudimentary lights, 2 brakes, roadworthy tires, etc, but if you don't have them you will be found out sooner or later. After all, the unsafe bike builders tend to be the hot doggers. I think the inspection is prone to scope creep, with the form built by a committee of bureaucrats vying for more and more check items. I'm glad we don't do it here in St. Louis.

As for a title, also not required in St. Louis. These machines are based on bikes, so do we all keep records back to the original buyer of the new bike? Not a rhetorical question. I do, but no idea what you all do. And for that matter, what do the build from scratchers do? That's a legitimate - actually admirable - activity, but they would have a real problem with a title. I like the Cal tag idea, but "title"?

With respect, fbn135's question is; "has anyone here managed to build, title, license, and register a motorized bicycle in the state of New Jersey?" Not the State of Missouri.
Most states (including Missouri) have similar laws regarding motorized bicycles and/or mopeds. So if fbn135s' bike is 50cc or less, not more than 3 hp, has 2 or 3 wheels, and has a top speed of not more than 30mph the bike is not required to be titled or inspected by the dmv or police dept. in New Jersey. However the bike can be registered if desired. After passing the safety inspection fnb135 can than apply for a title and after receiving said title the bike can be registered with the State of New Jersey.

Again the question is; "has anyone here managed to build, title, license, and register a motorized bicycle in the state of New Jersey?" Not, "do I need a registration in the State of Missouri?". Should the bike be registered? That is a matter of personal choice...
My advise... Just ride it!

Massdrive, don't think I jacked the thread. I was just trying to correct your "49 states" assertion. Missouri, as one of those other "49 states" does not, in fact, have the requirements you said they had, specifically DMV inspection and title. The remaining editorial comments were admittedly not part of the thread start, but I don't really think I was breaking thread etiquette by making them.

Another digression that I also don't think is thread jacking. On the "other" thread, a forum member named loquin keeps a comprehensive set of links on motor assisted bicycle rules and regs in all of the states and (I believe) some territories. Certainly a big variety of them, so it might be worth your while to check them out, re, that "other 49 states" comment you "imagined".

The newbe asked a question and I responded with a generic sort of answer stating that it can be registered and how to go about doing it, not that it must be registered...
As it turns out all 50 states have laws that define and govern motorized bicycles. Including Missouri. In fact Missouri law is the same as New Jersey law concerning the use of motorized bicycles. This comes directly from the Missouri State Highway Patrol
http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/Root/mopedsAndScooters.html:
"A motorized bicycle is defined as any two-wheeled or three-wheeled device having an automatic transmission and a motor with cylinder capacity of not more than 50 cubic centimeters, which produces less than three gross brake horsepower, and is capable of propelling the device at a maximum speed of not more than 30 mph on level ground. Missouri law states that motorized bicycles, commonly referred to as scooters, can be operated on public streets and highways if the driver holds a valid license. If your child can't legally drive a car, he can't drive a motorized bicycle on the road."
And there is more:
"Motorized bicycles and mini-motorcycles that have a motor with a cylinder capacity of more than 50cc and/or the ability to travel faster than 30 mph on level ground are--by law--defined as motorcycles. As such, these types of vehicles must abide by all of the state laws pertaining to motorcycles."

It doesn't matter what state you live in, if you want your bike registered it must pass a safety inspection and be titled. It doesn't matter if it is a motorized bicycle or a MC or a car or truck. If it does not have a title and you want it registered it must pass a vehicle safety inspection according to specific state laws. Again "if you want your bike registered"...

So maybe you should take your own advise and check out loquin's comprehensive list and try not to "imagine" yourself as such an authority on the subject. Maybe some of that "big oil" has gone to your "big head". Sorry that was rude. Oh yea, you were rude so I don't care...

Massdrive, you kind of made my case. NO mention of DMV inspection and/or title, per your "imaginings". Your words, not mine. The "there is more" is for >50cc vehicles, which, I think we agree, are NOT motor assisted bicycles. motor assisted bicycles were, after all, the topic of this thread. I would say, "good try", but not really.

Sorry for any "imagined" rudeness, but go ahead and vent on this forum, as far as I'm concerned. Better here than on friends and family.....

Massdrive, let me put it another way. In Missouri, and I would guess in many other of your referenced 49 states, there is NO way to build, title, license,and register, a homemade motor assisted bicycle, as defined in Missouri and almost everywhere else (the subject of the thread). Even if you wanted to, which I'm sure most of us don't. There are Catch 22 requirements, such as bills of sale, emissions tests, etc., that preclude it. If anyone in Missouri has done so, I will admit my mistake.

You are missing the point. All 50 states have similar laws governing the definition and use of motorized bicycles. I ride a 66cc motorized bicycle. Yes it is a motorized bicycle because it is a bicycle with an engine. Is it a moped? No not technically. Is it a scooter? No not technically. Is it a motorcycle? No not technically. Is it registered? No. Can I register it? Yes. I have titled motocross bikes, endure bikes, dune buggies and other types of OHV's I've received builder titles for cars and trucks too. The bottom line here is that fnb135 can register his bike if he chooses too and if he does it will require a VSI.

What is your problem anyway??? Never mind I don't want to know... I'm done with this thread.

Not at all, fbn135, and it's 2 bad a simple comment correction got so red. Your question was a good 1, and FU have 2 go 2 these lengths in NJ 2 ride a legal motor assisted bicycle (I confess 2 not researching this 4 your state), then that's a drag. The main take aways R (1) big differences between state regs, and (2) the regs can B found, as U have apparently done, successfully.

Repeating, REALLY a drag. I ride around south St. Louis with impunity. My main destination, the S. St. Louis YMCA, is directly across the street from our big police station, and IM passed and eyed all the time by the St. Louis laws. No pull overs, no second glances.... Of course they have bigger fish 2 fry, as we often beat out Newark 4 the "most dangerous city" title.....

fbn135 -

I have been trying to do this legally in NJ for over 3 months only to be roadblocked every time. I went to Trenton and they said I have two options:

1. Fill out the Specialty Constructed Vehicle form, provide all receipts, part numbers, etc, etc and cross your fingers
2. Go to the municipality where you reside and see what they have to say.

Neither is doable because you still need EPA and NHTSA approved parts on the vehicle. I'm totally stuck, frustrated and about to just about to toss in the towel. I can't seem to find a way around this other than just riding it and playing dumb if I get pulled over.

And the best part is ... I can get this thing insured for $78 a year. WTF ...

FBN -
Thanks for the info! This is awesome! Did you get any of this in writing through an email or something of the sort?

I'm in the New Bruns area and I already called the surrounding municipalities and was told that the motorized bike falls under NJ Title #39
(which can be found here): http://www.njlawman.com/new-jersey-traffic-laws/new-jersey-traffic-laws.htm

If I were to get that what they told you in writing and have this thing insured on top of that I think I would be ok. What's everyone's tough on that?