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maniac57

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Had a customer bring me a bike today for repair. He told me "his buddy said it was a good bike" and he couldn't get it started.

I looked it over and found a couple problems right off.

The front mount was a joke, with weak threaded rod and a hole drilled through the downtube.

When I removed it, I found this huge wallowed hole under the spacer

I now have to weld up the damage to the frame tube and install a decent U-bolt mount. I will also be fitting the rear mount correctly to the new position on the frame since it was just bolted right over the bottle rack screws and could not be tightened. I will have to grind off the bottom mounting screw boss to allow the mount to sit square and flush.


I also noticed the tensioner bracket was installed wrong so the chain would not track correctly on the idler.

This will need to be fixed after I get the mounts sorted.

Next, after completely rebuilding the rear wheel bearings and coaster brake (which had been assembled all wrong and was totally locked up), I finally got the rear wheel turning freely with a functional brake and no slop.
Look carefully at these wheels. They are very nice HD steel rims with 10g spokes and good hubs and the "builder" had nearly destroyed them simply putting the bearings and cone nuts in the wrong order!
He is actually very lucky the motor could not be started! If he had ridden it even a few feet, the rear hub and axle bearings would have been ground to junk.


It it very unusual to find such beautiful HD wheels on a bottom line Cranbrook cruiser around here. It's like finding a blown hemi in a rusty beater dart!


More pics when the rain stops.
 

maniac57

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Here are some more pics of the bike.

See how the tensioner is angled in? There is no way this thing will work like it is.

Here's another shot of the sweet HD wheel assmbly AFTER I re-assembled it correctly.

Here is where the bottle rack screw boss needs to be ground flush

And here is the better front mount (stll need to weld up the holes in the frame)
 
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crassius

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quick & easy fix for that bottle mount situation (save customer about 45min of labor cost) is to put a hole in your PVC spacer that will cover the boss that the screw goes into - take out screw and put in PVC and no engine removal needed
 

maniac57

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quick & easy fix for that bottle mount situation (save customer about 45min of labor cost) is to put a hole in your PVC spacer that will cover the boss that the screw goes into - take out screw and put in PVC and no engine removal needed
I prefer my mounts to have full metal to metal contact whenever possible so I grind the boss flush rather than use any spacers. Just my way of doing things.
PVC wears too easily for my taste and will slowly collapse and allow slop. Full metal contact is more solid.
Not dissing your suggestion, but spacers of any kind are just not for me.

I still cannot get a straight answer from the owner about what he paid or where he got this bike, so I'm guessing he paid FAR too much for it. The only redeeming feature is the HD wheelset!
Both fenders were flapping and the rear was catching the chain, both axles were badly misadjusted and overall it was a horrible mess when I got it.

This is going to be one happy customer when I give him back a running bike! I really enjoy fixing terrible builds like this since the owners always get so thrilled when they finally get to ride their new bikes! I almost don't want to charge him. (almost)


Look closely at this picture. Notice how the throttle cable is zip tied in a severe S-bend? This explains why the twist throttle binds and sticks. The cable is bent so sharply it will not move freely. Simple mistake for a first time builder. The clutch was the same way.
 
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kevyleven007

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Yeah its best to use the stock motor mount even if you have to grind it out a little more to fit or use a double ring mount. Drilling that big a hole is not good! The guy might have done it himself and not want to admit it.
 

maniac57

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Worked on the mess today. Almost ready to test it!
Started with this huge wallowed out hole in the frame...

Found a bolt and washers to fill it and give some strength to the area.

After welding around the washers, the hole will be much stronger and this way spreads the load out so hopefully it won't crack. I'm leaving the bolt it to have a hard spot for the mount plate to tighten against.

 

maniac57

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After fixing the hole, I ground off the bottle mount where the engine contacts the frame and fit the rear block so it sits flush and square to the seatpost. Then after bolting everything up tight, I lucked out with pedal clearance.

Then all that was left was to set the tensioner for proper tracking and tack welding it to the frame. Looking ready to start!




Might try after dinner and see if she fires up. This bike has never ever been started so I'm hoping the motor is okay after the poor start she got in life...
Still have to remove the front fender before I call the owner.
Should be fun seeing him get his first ride!
 

bluegoatwoods

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Nice job. They should never, never have come up with that 'drill through' front motor mount. They ought to get rid of them and quit encouraging their customers to use them.

Something that I think is not getting noticed very much; Huffy cruisers over the last several years are really, really good for our uses. The wheels are bullet proof.

During the end of their run in Dayton OH Huffys were getting to be pretty bad --with only a few redeeming qualities-- and gained a bad reputation.

But these modern Huffys are really good machines at a very good price.
 

maniac57

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The rims on this bike are sweet! If this is stock, I got robbed on my last few purchases...
These things are BEEFY! They really look like worksman or something similar.
The frame welding is very poor so I think the rims are HD aftermarket items added sometime later.
I've never seen ANY Huffy equipped with 10g spokes from the factory.
 
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dodge dude94

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FWIW, my Huffy has 12ga spokes on the wheels. I will make no mistake, the rims still get warped, but not as bad as some other rims, being heavy steel.



Looks like a nice build you made it out to be.
 

maniac57

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It is what it is, but at least he will have a safe chance to experience it now...
If it starts.
We shall see....
 

maniac57

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Update! The engine started first try and happily burbled around the block a few minutes. I see a happy customer when he see his bike up and running for the first time.
I really get a kick out of helping poor clueless noobs like this guy. He needs a good experience for a change!
 

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Update! The engine started first try and happily burbled around the block a few minutes. I see a happy customer when he see his bike up and running for the first time.
I really get a kick out of helping poor clueless noobs like this guy. He needs a good experience for a change!
I'd love to do something like this, racking my brain trying to fix things is a pain, but the end result, seeing how happy they are, is completely worth it. Sadly my roommate and I are the only two in my area with HT's that I'm aware of, I did see a red bike with an HT last year in august but havent seen him since, and there's a four-stroke 5hp trike here too but I've never seen it go (I've seen pics of it). I need to learn how to weld too, I dont think it'd be difficult, just gotta find a teacher and time, that would drastically improve my fabrication skills. I want to be skillfull enough to the point where I can buy some tubing, bend it to shape, and weld together my own, custom bikes.
 

maniac57

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Get a small buzzbox or fluxcore mig. (I prefer stick for more versatility) and get welding!
Experience is the best way to learn. I can teach you how in 5 minutes, but you will only get good by actually welding stuff.
Shoot for strong welds at first, pretty will come with time.
 

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FWIW, my Huffy has 12ga spokes on the wheels. I will make no mistake, the rims still get warped, but not as bad as some other rims, being heavy steel.



Looks like a nice build you made it out to be.
I bought a Wallyworld Cranbrook in 2011. The 2009 Huffy's were crap with bad welds and smaller spokes. The 2010 and 2011 Cranbrooks came out with the HD welds and 12 guage spokes. Before 2010 Huffy was well on it's way to ruining it's reputation.
When I was a kid, ( a million years ago,) Huffy was known for a tough bike. Heavier than Schwinn but tougher. I always had the old Huffy in the garage for a backup bike when the Schwinn broke. The Huffy was heavy to pedal so I fixed my other bike ASAP,Then returned the Huffy to the garage for next time. That Huffy NEVER broke. Wish I still had it.
fatdaddy.
 

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Nice fix Maniac for a 'poor build' to start with bud, I don't even like to dink with them anymore especially Huffy's, but like you I get a soft spot for people in dire need and little $ and will do what I can if I have time IF they at least clean the thing before they bring ithere. At least for you the thing had never been run, some of the stuff that comes in here I wouldn't even wish an enemy to have to touch.
 

maniac57

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Yeah, I plan to get a pic (if I remember...)
This poor guy has really had lousy luck so far and I'm looking forward to giving him a runner instead of more bills.
I am not making anything on this one because I'm a big mushy softie.
Here it is ready to go back home.