So I was at My workbench and thought it would be good to have a big exploded blow-up of a HT engine on the wall to reference. Anyone have a link to one most I have seen are so tiny.
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those animations are awesome!!That sucks 2door! Maybe if Jim gets a free minute he can put a poster together. I'd pay $15'ish for that(B&W, don't need 40x60 full color, heh heh). He did the Clutch Animations, so you know he's gotta have the rest modeled Cross your fingers he sees this thread
No problem. Here's whatcha do: get you some Red Nitric Acid, some Sulfuric Acid, some pure Glycerin, a large Pyrex dish, a bag of Ice, a couple Glass Thermometers, some glass Beakers, glass Swizzle Sticks, a Book of Common Prayer,...So I was at My workbench and thought it would be good to have a big exploded blow-up of a HT engine on the wall to reference.
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Oooooh Maaaan... don't remind me about that retiring/loosing facility's thing... it just takes so long to do stuff by hand... i get frustrated... "if i only had a Bridgeport or a big drill press"...lolWow, chainmaker, your question made me realize something else that I lost on my computer at work when I retired. I had an excellent exploded view of the China Girl that I'd enlarged and enhanced with Photo Shop...Rats! Now I have no way to retrieve it and I don't remember where I got it originally.
I also lost my access to a complete machine shop...I guess there are costs to retiring, huh?
If another member supplies one please let me know. I'd like to have a copy.
Tom
Bwaaaaa Ha ha ha ha!No problem. Here's whatcha do: get you some Red Nitric Acid, some Sulfuric Acid, some pure Glycerin, a large Pyrex dish, a bag of Ice, a couple Glass Thermometers, some glass Beakers, glass Swizzle Sticks, a Book of Common Prayer,...
"HT" stands for "Happy Time" - originally a derogatory slur comparing the engine to cheap, unreliable Chinese fireworks... It stuck as like those fireworks, they're far more reliable than you'd think and they're an absolute blast to play with lolA few more thing I've always wondered about...
What does "HT" engine stand for?
What is the EXACT designation for the generic 66 cc Chinese 2 stroke engine most of us use? its not china girl.
And why do some STILL refer to it as an 80cc?
Any help?>
BBB
Once again Barely, you've proven that you are the font of info for all things of shoddy cast Aluminum, Chinese workmanship (or lack there of) and the obscure!"HT" stands for "Happy Time" - originally a derogatory slur comparing the engine to cheap, unreliable Chinese fireworks... It stuck as like those fireworks, they're far more reliable than you'd think and they're an absolute blast to play with lol
TBH, I don't think there is an "exact designation for the generic 66cc Chinese 2 stroke" beyond the "in-frame 66cc Chinese 2 stroke" ...which is a bit cumbersome - thus the adoption of "HT" and "China Girl"... I could be wrong, if so I'd love ta hear what it's supposed to be
As for the "80cc" thing, well other than it's obvious, if ethically dubious marketing value - the story is that the "Chinese use different math/technique to measure displacement" ...which sounds good, even viable - except what bothers me about it is the 49cc doesn't seem subject to this same math... which leads me to believe in my original thought - that it's just advertising hype *shrug*
It all starts to make sense nowWhen Chris Hill was still in business, on his home page he explained the 80cc thing this way:
When the first ones became available they were incorrectly marketed as 80cc. When people began to realize that they were in fact smaller in displacement it was too late. There were already so many websites and Ebay adds for them that it was difficult to change. So, as the number of suppliers grew and because of the way search engines work, putting 80cc in their ads assured them of more hits than saying that their engines were 66cc, or whatever the accepted figure is today.
Chris made it clear that his engines were not 80cc but many vendors didn't bother to explain the discrepancy and continued to market their product as 80cc. Hence the plethora of ads out there for the bigger displacement engine.
Tom
Those are fine diagrams..It isn't very good pictures, but will this work for you?
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FALSE ADVERTISING? MARKETING SPIN? On the part of our stalwart Asian suppliers?"HT" stands for "Happy Time" - originally a derogatory slur comparing the engine to cheap, unreliable Chinese fireworks... It stuck as like those fireworks, they're far more reliable than you'd think and they're an absolute blast to play with lol
TBH, I don't think there is an "exact designation for the generic 66cc Chinese 2 stroke" beyond the "in-frame 66cc Chinese 2 stroke" ...which is a bit cumbersome - thus the adoption of "HT" and "China Girl"... I could be wrong, if so I'd love ta hear what it's supposed to be
As for the "80cc" thing, well other than it's obvious, if ethically dubious marketing value - the story is that the "Chinese use different math/technique to measure displacement" ...which sounds good, even viable - except what bothers me about it is the 49cc doesn't seem subject to this same math... which leads me to believe in my original thought - that it's just advertising hype *shrug*
Dont get me wrong Dan... The HT pretty much does what it was designed to do... its just that i cant help feeling that some were in china were being laughed at as some guy named Fong is taking a leak into the smelting pot.Just a thought, I don't think "Happy Time" or HT was meant in a bad way. More descriptive. Just sayin' and could certainly be wrong.
super terrific happy time Chinese engine.... I believe is where the "ht" came from.Just a thought, I don't think "Happy Time" or HT was meant in a bad way. More descriptive. Just sayin' and could certainly be wrong.