Above or below? Some years back we had 63 degrees below zero on the thermometer here in northeastern Minnesota. It has been much milder in recent years, but still cold. I don't mind the cold so much as I do the length of the winter. Used to be from Mid October into mid April. It's why I spend my winters now in Maryland near where Tinsmith is riding all winter. Now that I've got a more reliable ride I'll be out there braving it in all but deep snow this winter. Yes, that was a heck of a snow we had last winter, Dan.pft winter here is 60 degrees
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