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Vintage fender repair...how to?


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Old 10-09-2009, 09:11 PM
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Wrong thread silverbear? lol
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:11 PM
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Not being Canadian, I have no stake in this debate, but I can see merit in both sides of the issue. It is of interest to me because I think we share the same problem here in the states. I don't see interest waning in these motorized bicycles; it is on the increase, so whether we want to stay under the radar or not a time will come when we can't. My hope is that when that day comes that the powers that be feel the need to do something or other about all those crazy motorbicycles out there, that there will be sensible regulation rather than outright banning of their use on public roads. We'll get either regulation or we'll be outlaws. Outlaw has a nice romantic ring to it, but I have no desire to be hassled by the police ( and Aaniimoosh The Wonder Dog does not want to be arrested by a police dog, either). So when the time comes I will welcome sensible regulation. I think having motorbicycles abide by motor vehicle laws (at least some of them) makes sense. We don't need drunken motorbike riders on the road any more than drunk drivers in cars or trucks. Wreckless driving is wreckless driving and should be discouraged by fine if need be. I don't know how the age thing would be addressed. I would hope that younger riders would be able to ride legally. Maybe someday there will be a little safety training and a test. Helmets mandatory on public roadways is OK with me, just like seat belt laws. Requiring lights for night riding on public roadways makes perfectly good sense. I also wouldn't mind an inspection process if it was sensible and aimed at safety. There are some bikes which are so poorly put together or maintained that if it is obvious they are a liability, then a citation requiring something fixed or improved is again in the interest of the rider and the public. I don't have a problem with a cop stopping me in my truck for a tail light out or non functioning brake lights and requiring they be fixed. If that's what it takes to keep riding my motorbicycle then OK, better than putting the bike away forever or sneaking around all the while risking having my bike impounded. It will come eventually, some kind of action by our governmental bodies, public busy bodies if you will, they will speak and we will have to listen. If there is a way to influence attitudes ahead of time, that's good. Every one of us who keeps to the side of the road, drives within the limits of the road, comes to at least a rolling stop at intersections, uses hand signals when appropriate, wears a helmet and shows consideration for others sharing the road, even when some of them do not return the favor... each of us is having a positive influence and is helping to insure our longevity in this business of motorbicycling. Beyond that, I don't know. I do know that all the talk of how fast can I go is less helpful than how green I go, how inexpensively I go, how I ride with so much pure pleasure. I go out of my way to be friendly even with those who don't notice, don't care or are not from this planet. I think every little bit each of us does on the positive side helps. Every goofball who pisses off drivers with reckless abandon of the rules of the road hurts all of us. If we want to be legal, and recognized as responsible adults who should have a right to build and ride these motorbicycles then we have to behave that way. I understand the desire to remain in the shadows, but the light is getting brighter all the time with fewer shadow to hide in. We really do need to have a srtategy for the future which will come, as it always does.
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Oops, that post was supposed to by under the thread for the Ontario Rally. Guess I had you wondering, eh? It is an interesting thread, to me at least. This part of it is a debate about whether it is better to be upfront about this sport/activity or to be as inconspicuous as possible for as long as possible.
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Oops, that post was supposed to by under the thread for the Ontario Rally. Guess I had you wondering, eh? It is an interesting thread, to me at least. This part of it is a debate about whether it is better to be upfront about this sport/activity or to be as inconspicuous as possible for as long as possible.
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silverbear, back to the fender repair. you might want to try gas welding with mapp and oxygen. use a brazing rod or a lot of guys use a coat hanger for rod. it takes a little practice weld a section about an inch at a time and hammer the weld while it is still hot then quench with water to keep the heat out of the rest of the fender. you can grind this with a 24 grit flap wheel. if your good with a hammer and dolly you won't need any filler just a couple of heavy coats of high build primer and some block sanding. let us know on your progress. i would rather see a nice restored original piece rather than buying a repop-big mike
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silverbear, back to the fender repair. you might want to try gas welding with mapp and oxygen. use a brazing rod or a lot of guys use a coat hanger for rod. it takes a little practice weld a section about an inch at a time and hammer the weld while it is still hot then quench with water to keep the heat out of the rest of the fender. you can grind this with a 24 grit flap wheel. if your good with a hammer and dolly you won't need any filler just a couple of heavy coats of high build primer and some block sanding. let us know on your progress. i would rather see a nice restored original piece rather than buying a repop-big mike
Forgive my ignorance, but what is "Mapp" and what equipment is required to do this kind of welding? I did a little bit of oxy acetylene welding thirty years ago and was not very good at it. I could cut like nobody's business, though. I did the cutting and my brother did the welding. I always was better at taking things apart than putting them back together...
Thanks for the encouragement. I think I can make the old fenders look pretty good again. It doesn't have to be perfect to look good. I also like the idea of fixing up the original as a kind of respect to the bike, I guess. Also, I have to admit that expense is a very real consideration. I have more time than money and take special pleasure in fixing something that others think is trash... like say a dented old fender. I've got a few dents and lumpy spots myself, you know. No rust yet, but I keep looking.
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silverbear, i'am refering to mapp gas which is like propane but it burns hotter. sears has a small torch set that uses mapp gas and oxygen. so basically you are gas welding but this torch is small so it is a little harder to make a total mess out of your fender. that torch set was about 30-40 bucks if i remember. good luck-big mike
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:24 PM
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Mapp is the gas in the yellow bottle.

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