I'm jumping right in here with a Delmar from the Wally-World, and a low-cost Grubee engine. Hopefully I'll be running it around by Sunday. I eventually want to build up a 4-stroker in a Newsboy frame, but that is going to require some fabrication on my part. It looks like the only thing I need to do for the Grubee install is fab up a better front mount. I'm not drilling my frame, no matter what the instructions say. andy b.