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Discussion in 'Motorized Bicycle General Discussion' started by Ludwig II, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. Ludwig II

    Ludwig II Well-Known Member

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    I'm curious as to why there are so many people wanting more speed out of their bikes, when, to me, a major attraction of a motorised bicycle is the deliberate sacrifice of speed in search of miserly fuel consumption and a sense of relaxed style.

    If we're talking about performance figures, who's the forum mpg record holder? Surely that's much more relevant than making a pushbike mimic a modern motorcycle.
     
  2. Bikeguy Joe

    Bikeguy Joe Godfather of Motorized Bicycles

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    People will always "Hot Rod" anything they can get their hands on.

    I hear you though. If I want to go over 25 mph, I'll ride my scooter. Or the big Suzuki.
     
  3. 2door

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    I believe it's a generational thing. Most of us old timers are content with our bikes that cruise at a comfortable 20/25 mph. It's the younger ones who want them to go faster. This isn't surprising when you compare our bikes to music, fashion, hair styles etc. The kids and the older folks will never agree, never have, never will.

    When speed is concerned I just say, "live and let live". It's the noise problem that I see as an issue that can effect the hobby as a whole. Loud exhaust and unsafe riding can, and will attract the attention of the authorities and bring unwanted legislation.

    Tom
     
  4. Ludwig II

    Ludwig II Well-Known Member

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    There's a thing that never changes, kids making exhausts louder in the belief it equals more speed. Of course, none of US ever did that, did we?
     
  5. Allen_Wrench

    Allen_Wrench Resident Mad Scientist

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    Nah. 'Course not. Why, it would have been really rude of me, when I was in my late teens, to have gone and put twin Cherry Bombs and tuned pipes on my '76 Camaro and then go rumbling down Vernon Road with a deep-throated, reverberating *BRUM*BRUM*BRUM*BRUM which rattled window panes and induced threats of slashed tires.

    (Seriously though, that kind of thing is pretty rude. But I wouldn't have realized that back then. Thank heaven I discovered maturity, eh?)
     
  6. Ludwig II

    Ludwig II Well-Known Member

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    Que? Maturity? No understand, explain please?
     
  7. BarelyAWake

    BarelyAWake New Member

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    http://motorbicycling.com/forumdisplay.php?f=56 ;)
     
  8. Ludwig II

    Ludwig II Well-Known Member

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    I've just opened a link to the very bowels of the Devil! Electricity! The Creeping Curse, the the Wearisome Watt and the Obnoxious Ohm that threaten to engulf us all!I pray to God, Allah and the Flying Spaghetti Monster to release these heathens from their torment and let them embrace the Truth that is Internal Combustion!
     
  9. BarelyAWake

    BarelyAWake New Member

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    Hey, you asked :D

    For a moderate "sacrifice of speed";
    miserly fuel consumption, check
    sense of relaxed style, check
    mpg record holder, check

    whut? :p
     
  10. Ludwig II

    Ludwig II Well-Known Member

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    No pollution? What about all the minerals torn from the earth, roads, railways, ships caring them? The power stations burning fuel or feeding on the decay of toxic radioactivity?

    Style? We got rid of electric milk floats years ago. http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3072/3010834932_9d6f7ed3fa.jpg Style indeed!
     
  11. BarelyAWake

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    Did I claim "no pollution"? rotfl I think you've mistaken me for an enviroweenie, such is simply not the case lol - however, you said "mpg" not general environmental impact & I've not bought a single drop of fuel this season ;) Devil in the details n'all heh

    Only the most naive think electrics are anything but simple deferment of pollutants *shrug*
     
  12. Ludwig II

    Ludwig II Well-Known Member

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    I apologise most sincerely for mistaking you for a tree hugger. However, you're not getting me on board an electric; where I live, where I want to go, it's simply inadequate and currently, horribly overpriced.
     
  13. soup325

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    Would some of the riders, that want more power only have one gear?

    Im yet to finish my jackshaft install and I already dream of riding it.

    I dont want to increase the power output as I fear of busting the Nexus 8 speed IGH.
     
  14. dodge dude94

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    I want speed because I DON'T have a motorcycle and as long as I keep my speed down a bit and don't piss off too many people, I won't have any issues.

    I have an open exhaust btw. :D
     
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    An open exhaust and not pissing people off kinda don't go together!
    My bike runs fine with the stock exhaust, nice and fast and quiet...
     
  16. 2door

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    DITTO.


    Tom
     
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    Only if you don't ride by people's houses when they're outside. :D

    And I did find out how loud it is yesterday.....oops. :oops:
     
  18. Nashville Kat

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    I've tried to get as much bicycle efficeiency and as much of the experience of cycling combined into my builds, but always within PRACTICAL limits-

    But that's why I have 700C and 27 x 1 1/4 tires, and use as much alloy parts as I can- from years of road cycling. The top end just goes up a bit as you strive to get more practical efficiency- I'm sort of an enviro-tinkerer- but I think there's a real practical top end about 35- and even that's too wide open to seek continually- My 66 build is really comfortable with itself between 25 and 30- so that's usually where I get on open stretches.

    Who has the greatest MPG is hard- because, well IT'S A BICYCLE, and you can just pedal the thing across the country with a gallon of gas in the tank probably. I probably am up in the higher echelon there, because I just do a series of "Burns" quite a bit- I love to coast, and I hate to waste brake pads and stress out braking, so I get up to speed and as far as I think I can coast from any anticipated stop, I kill the motor and coast away until I'm at that point at about normal cycling roll/ speed.

    And with the semi-skinny tires I'm really quite comforatble with, cause they're not really like sew-ups or even 23mm clinchers- the bikes roll a half mile in calm wind once I'm up to speed. They're really sort of like a classic 10 speed in ridability, except I use a modern lightweight cruiser frame for clearance, and only one build has a mult-speed freewheel in the back.

    So anyway- still enjoying myself and haven't had any real problems yet- 3 1/2 years on.
     
  19. Mike B

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    Well, are you gonna put the muffler back on or just keep pissing people off?
     
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    webeneo1 New Member

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    Everything must be EXTREME.
    Your NOT COOL if your not risking a CRIPLING INJURY doing your thing.
    You must follow the WISE ADVICE of "GO BIG OR GO HOME."
    You must be SOMEBODY.
    EVERYONE MUST SEE YOU!
    YOUR IMPORTAND!
    What a bunch of sheep following a LOAD OF SHEEP %&#%.
     

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