I used this before on a build, pics in this topic. http://motorbicycling.com/f3/giant-3-speed-suede-w-jackshaft-19916.html I found I need it again today and tried it on a chrome no-cat pipe. No joy whatsoever. That chrome pipe just won't bend and all I got was a sore back. It did however work dandy on the black stock pipes. Just a tip in case you find yourself needing just a little bend to fit and don't have a big bench mounted vise or torch and heavy duty gloves.