Schwinn Clairmont build questions

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  1. WightBoy

    WightBoy New Member

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    Alright, another newb question/concern.

    I have the Clairmont and plan to go with the EZM kit. I just have one question. I need to register this thing as a moped here in MI due to insurance reasons which most of you know that the rule is 30mph, 2bhp, and 49cc or less. That's where my issue comes in. I wanted to get the kit with the HS 144 (the generator one) but just read that it is a 53cc. This puts a stop to my plans as I don't think I will be able to register it. What options do I have to power lights and such if I go with the smaller 4 stroke engines? I really want to avoid rechargeable batteries. If I did decide on the HS144, what are the odds I could squeak it past and get it "legal"? Also would a 3 piece crank be able to clear something this wide? Thanks for any help.
     
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    there is a few guys from up in your area to help with your legal questions are you stuck on wanting a 4 stroke. the 2 stroke has a white wire for running lights at 6v also 3 piece cranks can be gotten in different sizes to adjust for your motor size hope some of it helps
     
  3. WightBoy

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    I wouldn't say I am stuck on 4 stroke. I like the EZM transmission though. If I went 2 stroke, it would most likely be a Tanaka which poses another problem. I want to do a center mount and have no clue how I would do it with one of those. I shot EZM an email asking if 2 strokes were compatible such as the Tanaka but they were unsure. If someone knew if that could be done it would be sweet. I haven't been able to find any specs on the Tanaka's output shaft and mounting bolt pattern though.
     
  4. JonnyR

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    which model would you want to use
     
  5. WightBoy

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    I was thinking the Tanaka pf4000
     
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    the mounting holes are on the bottom and front since its a weed eater motor so its fairly versatile on how you can mount it
     
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    Okay, so now it would just be finding out what type of output shaft it has. All the photos I have seen just show it with the clutch shoes installed or already connected to a trans of some sort. Also if the bolt locations are in the right spots for mounting to an EZM, if not if there is a transmission that would allow for a mid frame mount.
     
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    why do you need a transmission? i have a 66cc 2 stoke flying horse kit and do 35mph with it stock and on here there are guys with the 49cc doing the same just takes longer
     
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    This is the email I got from Quenton

    "The Q-Matic drive has been tested and used on a wide variety of 4 stroke motors from 1.5 HP to 28 HP {B & S Vanguard}.

    The drive has never been attached to any 2 stroke motor that we are aware of, however I can't think of any reason it wouldn't work. If the motor has an extended crankshaft that could hold a 2" v-belt pulley and has a flat surface to attach the aluminum Q-matic drive plate to it should work. The primary ratio of the drive is 2.735 X 1 and the output clutch drive is a 10 tooth #41 sprocket."

    Based on pictures alone I can see there is a flat mounting surface but I have hit the same wall in not being able to find the size output shaft. I have thought about some sort of adapter to work with the clutch that appears to be on the engine. But that would introduce a second clutch into the equation and I'm not sure how that would perform.
     
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    if im going to do a 4 stroke i want to do a 16 hp duromax and i know some one with a spair with electric start:)
     
  12. WightBoy

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    I would love to see a diesel MB. I think something that large would call for a trike.
     
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    its a 4 stroke gas thats the same size as most a little heavy though
     
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    Ah, I saw Duromax and saw the huge shipping weight and thought it was diesel.
     
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    no its just ridiculously heavy i had to move one to a top shelf twice
     
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    Are there any EZM dealers in MI on here?
     
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    Another question. I am looking at a set of worksman wheels for my build but was wondering if a rear drum would work. The specs I was given are that the rear drum is 135mm vs the 110mm that the shimano coaster has. The reason I am looking at drum is for the pedal side freewheel. The bike came with a 7spd and that rim measures 135mm so I know the dropouts are far enough apart, just not sure if I will be able to align the chain on the left side. Does anybody have experience in this? The kit I will be using will be the Qmatic if that helps.
     
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    Update: I now have a functional motorized bicycle running a EZM Qmatic with the HS49cc, worksman aluminum wheels w/ stainless 12g spokes, pirate cycles sprocket adapter w/ 56 tooth sprocket and a SBP throttle. The thing runs awesome but it is a rough ride. I need front suspension badly and that is where I am stuck. I really want to get the monark II forks but do not know if they fit. Does anybody know how long my head tube has to be for these to work? I emailed monark but have not heard back from them yet so I was hoping to find an answer here. If anybody can help me out here, Thanks in advance!
     
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    Try PMing Venice Motor Bikes, or ask in his Monark post in the swap and shop section. He has a killer deal right now for $150 shipped and should be able to answer your questions.
     

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