I would like to know what you would go for, price is basically the same range after the Predator is modded with better parts. I use it for longer trips, I like best possible high speed with lower rpm to cruise but it still have to be able to launch from dead start. I tend to the Predator right now, but the whole jackshaft stuff (which seem to be a little pain in the a$$) and the size make me think. On the other hand the KTM is very powerful and simple but sounds like a bee through a megaphone. Could get annoying on longer trips I guess, but then again the videos I saw are probably all with 44t sprockets. KTM-50 (or in this case the very similar Morini): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQXnw2IMQ08 Predator 212cc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgLfW03_UKE&feature=youtu.be So whats your opinion?