1. momentummotorgroup

    momentummotorgroup New Member

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    I just got an email from a regular eBay seller of the China Gas kits saying that there is a good possibility the US is going to ban the import of these engines.. Anyone else heard this?
     
  2. freewheeling frank

    freewheeling frank New Member

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    sounds like a sales pitch to me,buy now before its too late!
     
  3. Venice Motor Bikes

    Venice Motor Bikes Custom Builder / Dealer/Los Angeles

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    I've heard the same thing, but I can't get any details on it!!
    I also heard that 1/1/10 is the cut off date. we'll see??
     
  4. wes

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    i herd that it could happen in 12 t0 18 months due to the government trying to get rid of 2 smokers due to emissions and that china will have to meet the U.S specs in order to sell these motors, there was also something about bigger companies (STIHL and others selling mass quantities of chainsaws and other yard tools) feeling undercutted by the standards they must follow that these china companies are getting away with. I plan on stocking up in the next few months just in case this happens
     
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  5. momentummotorgroup

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    well. I have dealt with the same guy on multiple occasions, and each time he's been solidly honest with me in our dealings ,which is why I come back to him specifically. I know from JUST reading an article on MSNBC that we are going to start heavy tariffs on Chinese imports as a whole, as well as taxes for the companies here that distribute,meaning our lil China Girls are gonna have to be paid big money for like Vegas hookers.

    SO.

    The next obvious question is: Who are making these engines here up to par with the EPA, and what type of patents do these engines have on em? I mean..tons of different companies over there are making them, so why can't we find a way to reverse engineer, improve on standards, and mass produce it here? I actually do know an owner of a local West Michigan metal shop who does parts for GM as well as the aeronautics industry..
     
  6. Kevlarr

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    Mass produced here? Yea for maybe $500 to $1000 per engine. There is no way on earth that we can compete with China for cheap goods.
     
  7. momentummotorgroup

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    if they do ban the chinese imports, it won't be a matter of competition, it will be a matter of perpetuating a market. If I could get an engine that didn't need constant repairs and was reliably built and produced locally, I'd be ok with a $500 tag on it. I've already had to put over $130 in parts and mods on the engine I paid $200 for, so to me it's an even trade.

    It is the battle of quality vs quantity. You want to spend cheap all you get is cheaply made..
     
  8. Venice Motor Bikes

    Venice Motor Bikes Custom Builder / Dealer/Los Angeles

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    I don't think this ban is because they are "made in China"... It's because they are 2-stroke gasoline engines that are being used on the streets.
     
  9. fasteddy

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    They went after two stroke lawn mowers and out boards years ago and made them run cleaner or they went to four stroke. You don't see two stroke lawn mowers any more.

    They were hot after chain saws too but a four stoke is heavier and and can't be tipped at different angles.
    Think the China girl are going to be a victim of thier own sucess and the tree huggers.

    Start pricing the Morini Franco engines.

    Steve
     
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  10. momentummotorgroup

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    Or come up with a cheap synthetic fuel that doesn't burn as dirty.. hah. like that'll happen.
     
  11. Kevlarr

    Kevlarr New Member

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    Just checked ebay thinking the prices would have jumped but at least from BGF they've come down and he offers more extras with the kit now.
     
  12. rmeloy34

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    looks like well just have to use what we can get ,like our cuban bretheren .....Viva la Riquimbilli~!!!...good ole Yankee inginuity......Hick n billy...
     
  13. HT2005

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    When the government gets involved, the price is going to go up. Anyone who knows Austrian Economics can attest to this. Tariffs are going to result in retaliatory tariffs on the part of China. Even if the engines are technically banned, they will find a way into the U.S.
     
  14. noco

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    look what happened to snow mo's they were supposed to get rid of 2 strokes after 2006 but instead they fuel injected them due to the high cost of a 4 stroke...i would love to see a motor made here that makes emisions, has a centrifical clutch, and has a cvt...it would be cool...it would be fast...it would have a better low end...it would also be expensive...wow im dreaming...maybe ill just wish for a real electronic ignition not just a coil pack that people are calling a cdi...to be able to advance and retard the ignition would be nice
     
  15. Blakenstein

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    Stihl is selling motors for bicycles?? Where??? There stuff is very high quality
     
  16. Kevlarr

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    If you could come up with a way to move the mag coil a bit either way you could do that.
     
  17. FileStyle

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    with a little "engine"uity you could possibly make that happen yourself!.weld.spr.
     
  18. Blakenstein

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    On a two stroke????There's no points or distributors or rotors on two cycles.As a matter of fact,some super hot car racing people switch over to magnetos on their super engines magneto systems just like 2 cycles but a little more complicated u can however, decrease your dwell ,but your spark is going to be a little colder.Where are those Stihl motors?
     
  19. Kevlarr

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    There's still the timing of the 6v pulse being sent to the CDI if there weren't your plug would just spark all the time.
     
  20. BarelyAWake

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    NEW! Stihl motorized bicycle engine kit!

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    (some assembly required)

    :D
     

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