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Using the wheel master mags now. I like them very much so far. The paint job is poor and will need a touch up.

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Yep the paint has flaked off here and there, and with true magnesium wheels you must keep them protected from the elements. Without paint serious and potentially dangerous corrosion will start. I haven't put a lot of miles on mine, having sealed bearing is nice though.
 
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Let me know how the wheel holds up mine ended up cracking twice.
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I read that post. Looks like abusive use. Mags are not intended for hard use. Gear derailleur would also not hold up. Manic mechanic style sprocket would slip under such hard use.

For that kind of use I would run single speed 11g wheels with disk mounted sprocket. would also keep extra rear disk hub because landings will damage the hub over time.
 
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Yep these are real Magnesium wheels which is pretty brittle. NOTE: There is a style that looks just like these mag wheels but are made of Aluminum. You can ID which mags are using aluminum as the outer rim is bare metal whereas the Magnesium wheels are completely painted even the rim or it would corrode. Other than that they both look like the same exact wheels. Magnesium is much lighter than aluminum but has a much lower melting temp an can even catch fire *furiously) with an exposed hot flame like from a torch so don't ever try to weld magnesium mag wheel. Both types of wheels are subject to cracking with abuse. Nothing beats 10 gauge spokes and a steel rim...yet...in strength for a bicycle wheel to my knowledge.
 
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ya the wheels I had must have been Aluminum they welded just fine. Maybe Ill look more into the wheels this guy got. But from his picture they look the same as the wheels I had with the bare metal showing where the brake pads hit the rim. Heres also a link to my old post I updated the pictures to they can be seen now.

https://motorbicycling.com/threads/serious-mag-wheel-failure.62945/

If you click the imgur link I posted on the first thread you can also see what the weld looked like the first time I had to repair them. Maybe they claim these are all magnesium wheels but dont seem to be in person.
 
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ya the wheels I had must have been Aluminum they welded just fine. Maybe Ill look more into the wheels this guy got. But from his picture they look the same as the wheels I had with the bare metal showing where the brake pads hit the rim.
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You have hy22 rims. hy22.jpg
I have hy27 rims hy27.jpg

Wheel master makes the hy22 and hy27. The hy27 is advertised as being a flip flop wheel. The hy22 may be flip flop wheel, but have never seen it advertised that way.
 
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Cylon, Yep if you welded them and you had the hy27 rims they are cast aluim and then the rim area is machined shiny and smooth for squeeze rim brakes. I've use 2 sets of each. I use both the aluim mags and the Magnesium mags on smooth roads only so I've had no problems, but its pretty scary that your aluim wheels cracked like that. You could of had a serious injury. Magnesium wheels probably absorb vibration better than aluim from what I know. Also if you would of tried to weld Magnesium the wrong way that could of been a big campfire in your garage. also water cannot be used in putting out a magnesium fire. It can be welded using a tig system if you use the right filers etc and know what you are doing, needs to be done by an experienced welder who understands this odd alloy. check out the link below.
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The hy22 and hy27 are aluminum. Will not catch fire when welding.

The hy22 has outer rim width: 22mm

hy27 has Outer rim width: 27mm
hy27 is slightly stronger than hy22
hy27 is flip flop hub
 
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Was looking at the BBR Tuning Mag Wheels. My adapter slipped and messed up my spokes. I think it may cost me near 50 dollars to fix. 5 spokes 3 dollars each and truing about 20-30. Thus looking at the mag option. The guy at the bike shop does not like them. Says they have issues all of their own. He said many times they do not start out true and the rims often can't handle the tires and air pressure very well. Anyone have any experience in these realms. 149 for the BBR rims.... 50 for a fix and try again. I need to shim my adapter in a way that it is going nowhere again...
 
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These BBR aluminum Mag wheels have the holes to screw the sprocket right to the wheel and come with a sprocket and that is a cool feature. If you are going to hit rough roads or pit holes these mags can crack as I've heard from various sources including in this thread. However if not Mags are a good choice and have sealed bearings also. Spokes for rough roads are better however, as they give and flex on bumps whereas Mags wont.flex if they get whacked so they crack.
One idea For 30 bucks more you can get a entire new bike with Mags ready to go and have a entire spare bike or parts or put your engine on this bike/ the sprocket fits on the same holes as used by the disc brake rotor. BBR will charge you probably 20 bucks for shipping on top of the 129.00 so you will darn near have a free bike. Its what I would do. I always buy an entire bike when I need new wheels. Many options for this way to get new wheels online.
here is but one. I personally love mag wheels in looks and ease of use and maintenance.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/26-Mens-Mongoose-Mack-Mag-Wheel-Bike-Black-and-Orange/146629218
 
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Look at it this way.. for 30 bucks more you get...a set of tubes and tires, seat, 3 piece crank set, pedal chain, front and rear disc brakes, head set, handle bars, bike frame, pedals, derailers, shifters, brake cables, tons of nuts and bolts, seat post, brake handles, seat clamp, suspension fork.
Buying wheels separately can be a fools game at times. Just something to think about before buying just wheels.
 
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I don't plan on ever riding on anything but paved roads. I bought a really nice bike and like to keep it wiped down after every ride. Electra seven speed cruiser. Do you know if I would be able to just move my seven speed cassette directly to those bbr mag rims? The guy at the bike shop said mag wheels have issues. He said often not completely true from factory and that tires have two issues - staying on rim and pressure. Do you find any of that to be true from your experience? They do look cool as an option and am feeling very tempted to try them. Could always switch them out as a spare. Wish it was the same sprocket though. I will probably need a new chain or add links to it. Currently I run 36 tooth with the bbr sprocket adapter, the mags come with 44 tooth. This drive train sprocket adapter issue is definitely the weak point of the build as it shut me down until I can fix that rim or replace.
 
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Cylon, Yep if you welded them and you had the hy27 rims they are cast aluim and then the rim area is machined shiny and smooth for squeeze rim brakes. I've use 2 sets of each. I use both the aluim mags and the Magnesium mags on smooth roads only so I've had no problems, but its pretty scary that your aluim wheels cracked like that. You could of had a serious injury. Magnesium wheels probably absorb vibration better than aluim from what I know. Also if you would of tried to weld Magnesium the wrong way that could of been a big campfire in your garage. also water cannot be used in putting out a magnesium fire. It can be welded using a tig system if you use the right filers etc and know what you are doing, needs to be done by an experienced welder who understands this odd alloy. check out the link below.
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I worked at a shop where we had to do some machining of magnesium parts. We were required to have a class D fire extinguisher on hand if i remember correctly. - Also I was in charge of keeping the kept the area clean, and so gathered up the "scrap" that was machined off (chips and curly strands). We would toss small envelopes of that stuff into our beach fires. Man it burned bright!
 
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