stupid thing won't start

joeblow · #1 07-08-2009, 06:26 PM

Hi everyone, again. I am having a rough time with this bike kit and have been for over a year. I am still on my first gallon of gas because of the multitude of problems with this thing, and that includes a significant leak that seems to have stopped.

I put new brakes on it and was all excited to test ride it, but the dumb machine wouldn't start. the clutch would catch hard enough to make my tires squeal a little, but not a peep from the engine. I am inclined to think it would be electrical, since it seems to do nothing at all.

Anyone have similar problems? Advice? Questions? Answers?

thanks,

reg454 · #2 07-08-2009, 08:58 PM

can you hear your motor turning when you try to start it? if so are you getting any spark from it.

Can you take the spark plug off and hear the motor turn.

its a good way to see if you have spark plus the motor will be easier to turn over.

My best word of advise right now is to check your wiring blue to blue, black to black, white nothing, unhook the kill switch for now to see if that is what is causing you bike not to spark. If it is your kill switch you can goto radio shack and get a cheap toggle switch.

Can you add some more information like the type of symptoms you have what you have is a start. I am sure more people will jump in and help out too.

joeblow · #3 07-09-2009, 09:35 AM

OK, I guess I was a little vague in my anger. I am not getting any turning. it grinds to a halt. no engine noises whatsoever. I have the stock kill switch setup instead of the splice into the blue and black wires, so that is my white wire, but I can disconnect it and see what happens. Is there any way to test the spark plug by itself?
If it is not my kill switch shorting is it a good assumption that it is my spark plug?

joeblow · #4 07-09-2009, 09:52 AM

disconnecting the kill switch didn't work. can I assume at this point the spark plug is busted? maybe the magneto is destroyed?

TheE · #5 07-09-2009, 10:08 AM

Well, if the motor isn't turning at all then it isn't the spark plug, that means something seized. Is your motor painted? I saw one thread where a guy's motor wouldn't turn over because the inside of the cylinder was painted!

Bikeguy Joe · #6 07-09-2009, 01:41 PM

Does the engine turn at all? Is it flooded to the point of being locked up?
Does the rear wheel keep turning when you release the clutch, but the engine doesn't turn?

Bikeguy Joe · #7 07-09-2009, 01:41 PM

Remove the plug and try turning it over, check for spark while you have it out.

sofasurferlinux · #8 07-09-2009, 11:48 PM

>I am having a rough time with this bike kit and have been for over a year. I am still on my first >gallon of gas

Even if you get spark you will not start if that is the same gallon of gas that you put in a year ago..

donuts31 · #9 07-10-2009, 08:17 AM

year old gas

pull carb and clean it..it may be varnished.

remove air filter and spray some starter fluid in it and it fires up, you have a fuel problem.

HoughMade · #10 07-10-2009, 09:38 AM

You say the engine won't turn. Let's start there (fuel doesn't mean anything without rotation)

Can you pedal it when holding the clutch in? I see you did at one time, but does the rear wheel still spin when you are depressing the clutch?

If not, the chain is probably bunched up where at the cover over the drive sprocket. Take the sprocket cover off and free the chain. This is usually caused by the chain being too loose, but can also be caused by the chain hanging up on the sprocket teeth. the cure for that is grinding the edge off of the teeth so the chain comes off of it smoothly.

If you can pedal with the clutch pulled in, the issue is likely inside the engine. It is possible that it is in the gear drive, but unlikely. Since it's easier, go ahead and pull the gear cover off and see if something is jammed in the gears (like i said, unlikely).

If it is not the gears, it's in the cylinder or crankcase. First, remove the plug and see if you can see anything wrong. Is the plug electrode still there? If you cannot see anything and the engine is out of warranty, pull the head and see what you can see. Then, if necessary, pull the jug.