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Old 06-06-2009, 08:50 AM
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Can't find anything by searching. I'm wondering what's the consensus here on using synthetic oil? I bought some but haven't tried it yet. What I'm wondering is that the bottle seems to be indicating that it doesn't matter what the oi/gas ratio is, just add the whole 2.6 oz. bottle to one gallon of gas. Does this make sense?
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: synthetic oil?

That's 50:1. What oil are you talking about?

Synthetic oil is a good thing, but IMHO most HT engine deaths are related to design and khrap assembly, not oil basestock choice.
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:17 AM
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The label reads:
pro-mix Premium
2 cycle engine oil
Designed for use with 50:1 40:1 32:1 & 16:1 Mix ratios
Low smoke - fuel stabilizer - synthetic blend
2.6 fl. oz. (77ml)
Add entire bottle to 1 gallon of gas.

Yes, that would be only about half of what I've been using with regular 2 cycle oil. I've heard that you can use less oil with synthetic, but how much less?
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Old 06-06-2009, 04:16 PM
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I run 50:1 Amsoil Saber synthetic. About 400miles so far so good.
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Old 06-06-2009, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: synthetic oil?

i use sinthetic oil i bought my at home depot the bottle is call rioni and i am using 20:1 for the first two gallons of gas which is about6.4 ounces and after that i am going to use32:1 which is about 4 ounces of oil sinthetic oil is good for your engine
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Old 06-07-2009, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: synthetic oil?

The engine I'm running right now has around 500 miles on it so it's completely broken in. I'm going to go with the 2.6 oz. to one gallon or 50:1, and see what happens. I suppose how you drive is a factor. I don't push the bike hard. I never run it with the throttle wide open.
Hope I don't blow it, but then, I say that every time I go for a ride.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: synthetic oil?

i use amisol sabre...80 to 1...it says 100 to 1.....per pablo...sorry about name dropping...i've tried tried this oil at 50 to 1 and you cannt start the engine...it is dense...great oil...all 3 bikes, everything is ok...XXXXXXDennis
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Default Re: synthetic oil?

I went to the other extreme and use Walmart 2-stroke outboard oil. It's about $11 a gallon and I mix it about 32:1. The oil is not to be used in high hp/cc outboard engines e.g. Rotax but I'm convinced it's going to be fine for these crude Chinese engines that in China probably get cheap gas mixed with a little old cooking oil. So far, the engine has about 12 hours on it, so about 200-250 miles. Just did a 1 hour ride today and nothing vibrated loose, which is a first.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: synthetic oil?

doesnt outboard oil have mineral oil as a base?...if it works dont fix it...ha...also i buy the Z-Max kit for my old truck...and in it, it has asmall bottle of Z-Max for 2 stroke engines..i have added 1 oz one time per gallon of gas...it has leankite in it...which is used in jet fuel...it sure tightened things up...ha...great product....the most it would cost is a hundred dollars for a new engine...ha.ha...well i wish you luck, stay in touch and lets see who goes down first...Dennis...
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outboard oil is designed diffrently than normal 2 stroke oil and will ruin your engine..
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