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Old 05-07-2009, 09:01 PM
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Default An install Kit for the Schwinn Jaguar

Hi Guys,

The prototype installation kit for the Schwinn Jaguar has been shipped to MB monkey. This kit will undoubtedly fit on other models, but I have not had time to find out for sure.

He will install it, and test it. There are more components that will be added to the final kit, once any bugs are ironed out in the prototype.

I tested the Clutch actuator kit for a month before I offered it for sale. The Jag kit will go the same route. It may not require as much time, as MB rides a lot. I simply do not have the time to test this kit, so MB will be your source for all questions about the functionality and quality of the parts during the test phase. If any component proves to be sub-par, it will of course be corrected. Normally I would not consider allowing an outside test of a prototype. I've got to manufacture engines. I'm confident MB will do this correctly.

The kit as shipped to MB includes: (Photo below)

1) A motor mount set-up that is correct for the Jaguar frame.
2) A Sprocket adapter & 42 tooth sprocket
3) Our clutch actuator kit
4) A copper exhaust gasket
5) Our port matched straight through intake
6) A packet of quality electrical connectors
7) A packet of hardware to mount the CDI (The machine screws supplied with the kit are not long enough...they should also be installed using nylocks).
8) A proper ball bearing chain tensioner with a mount that corrects for the off angle of the chain stay.

The final kit will include:

1) Numerous additional hardware bits for a clean installation.
2) A dual pull/Dual action brake lever
3) 90-120 Durometer Mounts
4) A really good installation manual with numerous tips on tuning.

The kit photos show solid spacers. The 90-120 durometer mounts have yet to arrive...I did not want MB to have to wait any longer. As soon as they arrive I will test them here and then ship a set to MB for a longevity test.

I tested this with 60 durometer mounts. While perfectly acceptable in general, they are a bit too soft during acceleration. These mounts completely nix the vibrations from the engine and make for a real nice ride.

I have got to get the new engines going...please allow MB to test this kit and keep everyone posted. I do not have a final price for this kit. The individual components will be available for purchase separately.

Thanks to all of you for your support of my shop...it is truly appreciated.

Jim
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: An install Kit for the Schwinn Jaguar

I accept your challenge sir and we shall see who is riding the bus in the end! This concept started last November with the idea that the kit would be ready by Jan 30th. Well a little of this and a little of that and here it finally goes into testing.

I am proud to put this kit thru the test as most of you know I live in the Las Vegas Valley and it is a torture zone for anything motorized. It's dirty and dusty with lots of bike lanes and paths to test on. I have plans to take the bike up to the mountain trails thru the area parks to get some data on hill performance.

I will be making this build without any special tools no shop and in the living room of my 1 bedroom apartment. Just to show it can be done by anyone that can follow directions and a little help from the forum.

My next post will be about the starting point and the parts I have chosen to go with the kit. Be well for now stay tuned same monkey time same monkey thread!
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:47 PM
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I will be anxiously awaiting the release and the feedback!

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Old 05-08-2009, 09:03 PM
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Those look like some high quality parts, never seen a chain tensioner look so purty.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:05 PM
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That looks AWESOME Jim
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:54 PM
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Thanks Guys,

The chain tensioner thing has always been a source of annoyance for the builds I've done here at the shop. I usually put the kit piece in a vise and use an adjustable wrench to tweak it a bit so that the roller tracks true to the chain.

On the Jaguar, the chain stay tube is 5 degress off parallel to the chain, so I milled the 5/8" slots at a 5 degree angle. The roller now tracks perfectly for this bike.

This bike does not have deep slots in the drop-outs, Brett has been teaching me bike terminology.
Soooo...There is no way to adjust the rear wheel so that the chain can be pre-tensioned.

Long story made short...for this bike it becomes a specific combination of links removed from the chain vs. the number of teeth on the sprocket.

I did not try a 44 tooth, as I wanted to end up at 40. With 2 links removed from the kit chain; the chain was too slack for the 40. Had I removed the next link, the chain would not have fit. I made a 41 tooth...still a bit too much slack for my liking. 42 ended up good. I had planned on removing the next link to see what the next sprocket size, down, would be. I didn't have time, but i'm thinking 38 maybe 39.

As soon as I get the engines done, (which will give MB time to test), I will finish off this kit and make 50 or so.

I think this is going to be a real benefit to those just getting started in MB's. Due to all of the different geometries from one manufacturer to the next, it is virtually impossible to make an inexpensive "universal" kit. Even this bike is built with different components. For someone new with limited experience, and very few tools...I think this kit will be a "must have" if the builder is considering a beach cruiser style bike.

Jim

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Old 05-09-2009, 11:16 AM
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are those intakes for sale and where could i buy one? thanks.
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:51 AM
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:08 PM
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cool, its ordered. thank you.
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Old 05-09-2009, 04:13 PM
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Looks awesome! Put me on the waiting list!!
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