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01-11-2009, 05:58 PM
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Location: Manchester TN USA
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Simple Turn Signal Circuit
While Browsing the local auto parts store a brainstorm hit me.
why not make a set of turn signals for a better road presence.
The most expensive part of the system would be the power source (battery).
Ultimately the design can be tweaked to any application.
As i have installed a Wald rear basket set i have room to carry a small 12v Battery pack the actual device to be determined but the circuit is based on 12V parts.
Parts List:
4 12V lights (Size and color are of choice would recommend LED)
1 12V ON Off ON Toggle Switch ($3.99)(could also use a 120V)
2 12V Flasher Units ($2.99 each)
1 12V Power source (application specific)
25' Speaker wire ($4.00)
Definition of symbols:
L1: Left front light
L2: Left rear light
R1: Right front light
R2: Right rear light
FL: Flasher left
FR: Flasher right
SWC: Switch center
SWL: Switch left
SWR: Switch right
BT: Battery
GR: Ground
Install the lights were desired keeping in mind they should be viewable to the front and rear.
Wiring description:
+12V from BT to SWC
+12V from SWL to FL
+12V from FL to both L1 and L2
GR 2nd pole of L1 and L2
+12V from SWR to FR
+12V from FR to both R1 and R2
GR 2nd pole of R1 and R2
Personally I would ground all of the lights back to the BT source to create a Single point of failure easier to trouble shoot if something is not working.
The lights will flash just like a car i utilize 2 flasher units ($2.99 each) simply to isolate the left and right side maintaining independent circuits. the simple toggle keeps the whole system cheap there are a few factors to work out such as a rechargeable inexpensive 12v system which in turn would end up being the most expensive part of the build. Using speaker wire is acceptable as this is a low voltage system you could also use phone line as well just about any small diameter wire lying around.
I also noticed in the accessories isle a 4pack of small LED lights for around $17
All in all a very simple system that will get some notice even during daylight hours.
Now if you want to get Fancy you could buy universal 1154 sockets and bulbs and have running lights with turn signals but that will be Turn Signals 2.0.
Now that i have a smooth running MB i can put my brain to better use and really get some inexpensive system ideas together.
Thanks to all for the help along the way i hope i have helped others. any input is always welcomed. i would love to see some ideas of cheap 12v rechargeable Battery system.
Estimated cost of build
flashers, toggle switch, and wire are $11 4LED light pack $17 totaling $28
Battery (small scooter battery) $40 [could also be used for head light / tail light system ] idea in the works
So roughly $68 but would like to see it under $50 thats the goal anyway a cheaper 12V is what is needed.
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01-11-2009, 11:36 PM
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Re: Simple Turn Signal Circuit
So what is a low cost 12V rechargeable system anyone know of one?
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01-12-2009, 10:53 AM
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Re: Simple Turn Signal Circuit
You can get small 12v SLA batteries from Batteries Plus. Like $24 for the batt, $20 for a charger....
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01-12-2009, 06:39 PM
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Re: Simple Turn Signal Circuit
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01-14-2009, 11:06 AM
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Re: Simple Turn Signal Circuit
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01-14-2009, 11:15 AM
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Re: Simple Turn Signal Circuit
Package price of $54 for a mechanical speedo, those lights and dynamo light set...not too bad.
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When his parts come in he'll be set
The pulse was so cool
It'd make a guy drool
He'll put one on a bike now I bet....................." - Ilikeabikea
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01-18-2009, 05:07 PM
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Re: Simple Turn Signal Circuit
update:
Now i have a source for the turn lights. Yellow up front and red in the rear for testing i am running single bulb turn signals. Tomorrow its supposed to be cold so i think I will bring in the bike and do some mock ups. Hopefully some pics to post tomorrow.
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01-24-2009, 03:58 PM
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Re: Simple Turn Signal Circuit
OK so here is the prototype front mount would love any feedback.
It is just installed not painted or finished yet. The plate mounts to the head tube to keep from adding more crap to the handlebars.
Let me know what you think.
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01-24-2009, 04:02 PM
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Re: Simple Turn Signal Circuit
Hey MB, looks good...........................
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01-24-2009, 04:15 PM
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Re: Simple Turn Signal Circuit
Very cool
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