all fuled up but no start!!!

MB-Monkey · #1 12-14-2008, 10:42 PM

OK after many weeks of this and that i finally got the huffy cruiser and motor together. i did it the way i wanted and made a custom mount for the oversized bar i will post some pics when i get a chance. Anyhow tried to get her started for the first time.

Mixed the fuel as directed by the forum ha ha roughly 20:1

primed the carb as best i can tell i have an upgraded carb on it with the blue air filter

Pulled it the clutch and peddled like mad dumped the clutch and the motor turned over but seems like no spark.

Blue to blue black to black white capped off plug wire snug tried choke on choke off tried many many times to get it to start and no luck. was hoping for some ideas on what to check next.

Engine is the 65.9cc EPA motor

I just wanna ride baby!

misteright1_99 · #2 12-14-2008, 10:53 PM

1) pull the plug to see if it gas on it...
2) ground the plug on the engine, and peddle it or spin the wheel to see if you have spark..
3) are you sure you dont have an intake leak? the manifold is oringed or sealed with RTV.

MB-Monkey · #3 12-14-2008, 11:21 PM

ok so i rewired the blue and black wires i noticed that the kill switch is wired into the blue wire and then the green wire from the kill switch to ground

also i tried to pull the lug but it seems to be really tight and didn't want to break it any idea what size the socket is?

Also i checked the carb body and it is sealed with an oring it is a real nice carb setup but i can't get the plug out to check for fuel btw if no fuel on plug what then.

MB-Monkey · #4 12-15-2008, 12:13 AM

update

Cut the kill switch out completely now blue to blue black to black no kill switch

pulled the plug seems to have fuel to it seemed wet with fuel.
pulled the bowl screw on the carb and fuel poured out.

tightened the screws on the intake to the carb.

still does not fire. just got the plug loose i am working by myself had to see if there is spark

**Dave31** · #5 12-15-2008, 12:21 AM

Blue to blue and black to black. Or green to blue if you have green coming off the mag. If you have two wires off the kill switch one to blue and one to black, doesnt matter which is done.

MB-Monkey · #6 12-15-2008, 12:36 AM

right now it is blue from CDI to motor Blue
Black from CDI to motor Black
no kill switch connected i have a remote choke that can kill it for now.

both wires are stripped hard twisted and taped solid

**Dave31** · #7 12-15-2008, 01:03 AM

Testing for spark by yourself can be a pain....

http://motorbicycling.com/f4/tester-ignition-207.html

I use a spark plug tester that can be picked up at any local auto parts store. Normans set-up is a lot easier to make.

You can also make one like I have with a old spark plug and alligator clips. Just solder the alligator clip to your old spark plug and there you go. Be sure not to crank the motor without the coil wire plugged in and spark plug grounded.

MB-Monkey · #8 12-15-2008, 01:14 AM

ok lets imagine that i haven't spent the last hour and that is 2 am trying to check for spark and split my hand open wide with blood dripping on the floor and say that there isn't a spark now what do i check. seems like i am getting fuel i am going to take the carb off and wrap the intake with RTV and re connect the carb to the intake. i will get a spark tester tomorrow but if there is no spark whats the solution.

**Dave31** · #9 12-15-2008, 01:18 AM

CDI or Mag....I know there is threads here on how to check them but I am running out of time. If I cant find them real quick I will post the links tomorrow. Do you have a OHM meter?

MB-Monkey · #10 12-15-2008, 01:36 AM

i am done for the night not sure if it is a CDI or a Mag not sure what the difference is but it is the one that came with the kit the little black box with the plug wire coming off of it. i have it zip tied to the frame should it be screwed in i wouldn't think would make a difference i will check back in the morning. thaks all for the help one of these days all of my hard work will pay off.