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Old 03-11-2012, 10:14 PM
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gasbike.net | kingsmotorbikes.com | Nationwide Access, LLC

The worst company I've ever dealt with. Their goal is to make our lives miserable.
Was hoping all the negative posts against them were old and they corrected the problems. Unfortunately, the negative posts list only continues to grow.
They have a lot of nerve basing their company on American soil AND screwing everyone that deals with them!
I'm convinced they need a class action lawsuit against them.

Here's the short history of my experience:

Put bike together February 12-13, 2012
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Date: February 13, 2012
Email To: <nationwideaccess@aol.com>
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* Put engine on bike
* pedaled bike
* started bike (good news)
* chain broke (bad news)

Can you do anything about this for me?

Thanks,
John

Company Reply: None
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Date: February 14, 2012
Email To: <sales@gasbike.net>
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I put my kit together. Everything went fine. The chain has broken three times in less than 20 yards. Can you help me out with this?

John

Company Reply: <jksnwa@gmail.com> Hi, we do not warranty the chain the warranty is on engine only
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Date: February 15, 2012
Email To: <jksnwa@gmail.com>
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the chain you sent me is brittle like a twig and is not the proper part for this application. Please send me the proper chain, that is designed to be used on a motor, such as #41 roller chain.

Company Reply: <jksnwa@gmail.com> 410 standard chain is what comes in the kit, if the motor kit is installed right and the front sprocket is lined up straight with the back and you use the proper chain tensioning with the tensioner then the chain will not break
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Date: February 15, 2012
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installed properly. pedals just fine until the power of the motor takes over.
according to forum reviews. the chain they come with are regular bike chains and break very quickly because it's not the proper part for use with a motor.

Company Reply: None
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Date: February 16, 2012
Email To: <nationwideaccess@aol.com>,<jksnwa@gmail.com>,<sal es@gasbike.net>,<nationwideaccesssandy@gmail.com>
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Chain broke 3 times starting engine => Replaced with #41 chain ($30). Works great.
Spark plug wire housing broke trying to snap onto plug => Doesn't fit. Took off spark plug tip. Now sits loosely on plug.
Kill switch and engine wires have male connectors => Had to cut/splice wires together.
Carburetor air filter too large on engine to fit in small space => Had to use angled pipe to reroute it. It does not sit level now. May be a problem???
Sprocket bolt broke while tightening => Bolts are cheap and inadequate.
Two idler pulley bolts broke while REMOVING them => Bolts are cheap and inadequate.
Note: All SkyHawk GT kits come with throttle cable pre-attached to the carburetor. => Mine did not.
http://www.grubeeinc.com/USA/STARFIR...STRUCTIONS.htm

I think gasbike.net owes me the price of the chain, some quality replacement nuts and bolts and probably a few more things. Only time will tell. Would have gladly paid a little more for quality parts up front instead of having my time wasted.

John

Company Reply: None
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Date: March 3, 2012
Email To: <nationwideaccess@aol.com>,<jksnwa@gmail.com>,<sal es@gasbike.net>,<nationwideaccesssandy@gmail.com>
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Since putting my bike together on the weekend of February 11-12, I have not been able to safely ride this bike until the week of February 27 - March 3.
I was lead to believe I was purchasing a bike/engine kit that is road worthy and safe out of the box. But instead you sold me a kit that is unusable and life threatening until replacing many of your improperly sized and inadequately constructed parts.

Current list of inadequate parts:

* Chain
Built with lesser quality than a regular bike chain. It broke 3 times while only trying to start it for the fist time. Your tech told me it was properly sized and would work fine if it was put on correctly. He was wrong. I bought a #41 roller chain and have not had one problem since.

* Idler Pulley
This dangerous device could have killed me at a higher speed. The bolts are so cheap that the chain spun the pulley right into the spokes and damaged a spoke. While unscrewing the bolts, they broke off. After installing the proper strength bolts constructed of steel, the pulley has remained in in its' place.
The pulley wheel itself had an inadequate bearing spacer made of aluminum which broke into pieces causing the idler wheel to lock up. I replaced the spacer with a properly constructed one made of steel and it hasn't had a problem since.

*Carburetor
Grubee, Inc. stated on their website that all their carburetor's come per-attached to the throttle mechanism. Mine did not. The carburetor float was not properly adjusted and was causing most of the gas to leak out from the overflow onto my leg, on the bike and on the engine (which is unsafe and a very dangerous fire hazard). The air filter is not designed properly to allow air to flow at your poorly recommended break-in fuel/oil mixture of 16:1. At 16:1 oil was seeping from the engine block, spark-plug hole and the from both ends of the carburetor. The spark-plug was fouling and dripping wet of oil. Also, oil would splash backward out of the intake clogging the filter and not allowing air in. This caused it to run very poorly and bog down to about 10mph. I had to install a radiator hose to move the filter away from the splashing oil for it to properly work. There was also oil seeping out of the poorly designed plastic spacer used to attach the carburetor, causing the carburetor to slide off while driving!

*Muffler
The muffler vibrated completely apart. Also, the black coating on the muffler is melting into a brownish color.

*Sprocket Bolts
One bolt broke while insuring that they were safely tightened. They are all very cheap. I replaced the broken one with steel and cranked it tight and safe. I expect to have to do the same with the rest.

Summary:
Gasbike.net has failed in every way in delivering what I paid for. The best I could have done with the kit and parts you sold me was to start it and listen to the engine run. After researching each of my problems, I have found that your customers have had the very same ones. This makes your company completely negligent. And your negligence as been a danger to myself, your customers and the public. Also, a waste of a great deal of my valuable time.


The price to fix/replace your inadequate parts:
#41 Roller Chain: $28.89

Air filter hose: $7.50

Bolts/Hardware: $3.00

Muffler: I have not done anything yet with the broken muffler.

Damaged spoke: I have not yet fixed the damage to my spoke caused by your cheap idler pulley bolts. But my tire is now wobbling.

My time wasted: 2 weeks

Company Reply: None
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Date: March 8, 2012
Email To: <nationwideaccess@aol.com>
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After checking my mounting stud this morning, I slightly tightened the rut and all the threads under the nut stripped off.
Is this covered in my warranty?

John

Company Reply: I'm still waiting
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Date: March 8, 2012
Email To: <nationwideaccess@aol.com>
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There is rust developing inside my gas tank.
Is this covered by my warranty?

John

Company Reply: I'm still waiting
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Date: March 10, 2012
Email To: <nationwideaccess@aol.com>
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Today I traveled 11 miles away from home and then the clutch went out. I was unable to fix it. After pedaling home, I took the cover off the gear box and found that there was no key installed to keep the gear on the shaft. Consequently, the only thing that was holding it on was a star washer. This along with the very large list of problems I have emailed you, I would like fixed. ASAP.

Company Reply: I'm still waiting

John
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The attached picture is some of the broken parts. The border is a #41 roller chain to add contrast to the small bike chain they sent me.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:25 AM
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John your points are valid,these little devils are made in dirt floor factories in China and are shipped to the U.S.as cheaply as possible, however Gas Bike is the main importer of them so they have LOW prices,poor customer service,slow response time ,at least they will ship to you. I've experienced most of the same breakage as you, and, well as a hobby they are frustrating, time consuming, money pits that when I overcome the challenges they present and learn to transform these little lowgrade turds into a handmade thing that is COOL . When I'm riding my one of a kind expression, and I see a middle aged guy in a car look at me and nod, it makes it worth it and a lot more. My friends and I only use the motor and even that, we take it apart and go through it NUT and BOLT. The rest of it is junk made from the cheapest junk there is. If you do the research on this site an listen to what we've done you will find it very rewarding or not. On the other hand your only out 2 bills. Go to Harbor Freight and buy a fine electric tool and work the @#&t out of it see how long it lasts.Gas bike is importing and that means for now these little babies are coming into the good old U.S.A. I like that. Bob
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:16 AM
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Welcome to the world of building a motorized bicycle with a Chinese HT. Funny, I've been running my bike since 2009 with the factory chain. I bought a chain at Tractor Supply (after build finished) should I need it. As it hasn't broke (even once) it's still on the shelf.

Stripped, bolts/studs/nuts, bad tensioner design (along with many minor problems that you might incur) is one of the reasons why I wrote up this document.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...QUZq2qXXE/edit

Chinese HT engines not being worth a crap...So what is, that you get from China in the first place? Bad engines, tainted baby formula, sheet rock, lead in paint, to name a few. I try to buy very FEW Chinese supplied products, but it's very hard to find "MADE IN THE USA" today. I know people try to save money, so you give up quality made products.

These (under $200.00...I paid $123.00 to the door) engines can give you many hours of fun if you spend a little more time setting them up. Not saying you didn't, but you have to. If I spent $200.00 on diesel for my truck at today's prices, I could get 1,277 miles out of that $200.00, not even adding the $600.00 I pay for insurance each year. Been on my original (first was for son) engine since 3/2009.

Granted, the vendors SHOULD be more concerned with their customer support, but why should they have to? So many buyers out there like me and yourself..."REVIEWS" sometimes tell the story. I've come to find out that ABOUT all vendors (from reading reviews) treat their customers that way. I'm lucky, very lucky..out of 6 engines I've bought I had the magneto go bad on the first, that's all.
Now since we are on this subject, I'll never buy from BGF/luckyearlybird (they are related).
When the magneto went out, on the first engine, I wasn't sure it was the CDI or the magneto, so I contacted her, told her about it, and ordered one of each. When I found the defective part, I contacted her for a replacement and she basically told me tough s..t. So you are not in the life boat by yourself. Road ready? I was under the same misconception you are now.

My rant is over...... :>)
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:59 PM
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You can buy a good chain for less than 15 bucks. Probably cheaper than paying shipping both ways even if they did warranty it. I think you will find that you will be replacing a lot of parts down the road for better quality stuff. These cheap kits just give you an education on how a motorized bicycle should be built. At least that's how I look at it.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:46 PM
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Business as usual.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:11 PM
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Remember they dont make or assemble the kits. They dont even open the boxes I dont believe. They ship them in and ship them out to us. Any research into these china girl kit tells you that all bolts are junk. Also you need to go through the entire motor before even putting it on your bike. I think the kits would be double the price they are if they were tested and provided with all quality parts, adjusted properly.

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theres a reason Staton charges over $500 for a chaindrive kit...
you get what you pay for
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theres a reason Staton charges over $500 for a chaindrive kit...
you get what you pay for
True, but I'd rather pay (highest price I've paid to the door $153.00) and go through it my self, that way I KNOW what I have. But there are others that can't/don't want to do the extra.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:09 PM
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Johncy7
Sorry you had to go through this.
I called them last week to find out if thier 4g t transmissions are 5/8inch so as to fit on honda motor. the live chat person didnt know and referred me to tech support (which never answered the phone or called me back) thier price attracted me $99.00; as others who are $139.
I wont be ordering from them.
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I bough parts nov 2011 they have told me that the parts have been resent at least two times still watting? It is only about 25.00 of parts but i called so many times they know my voice. The P.O. said it was mailed but could never find it? BEWARE gasbike.net
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