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Old 09-27-2008, 01:15 PM
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HHO bubbler on a motorized bike? why not?

1. the engine will get to hot
2. it is a hydrogen bomb waiting to happen
3. if it stalls it will blow up upon re starting
4. if it explodes it will be under your privates!
5. you would have to carry acid with you
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:16 PM
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Where are you going to get the thousands of watts of energy for the electrolysis?
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: HHO bubbler on bike

its really a simple build with a 12v batt. and the gas is at ambient pressure so it cant build pressure if the engine stalls. mitch
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Old 09-29-2008, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: HHO bubbler on bike

How about an HH bubbler on bike instead

Run Your gas MB with supplemented Hydrogen from Aluminum and Lye. (no electrolysis)
hydrogen generator H2O + Al -> AlO2 + H2 + heat

How it works.

Put Aluminum into a tank of Lye (sodium hydroxide and water). Caution Lye is just as dangerous as acid.
The Sodium Hydroxide peels off the Aluminum Oxide surface from the Aluminum allowing water to come into contact with Aluminum metal. The Aluminum immediately oxidizes, ripping the water's Oxygen atoms away to make Aluminum Oxide.(collect and recycle please) That releases the Hydrogen which bubbles out to be burned in the engine.

This reaction produces pure Hydrogen as apposed to electrolysis which produces brown gas (O & H = explosion) I would place the reaction chamber behind you! Run the Hydrogen tube through a series of vinegar (mild acid) bottle bubblers to help neutralize any caustic vapor from the reaction chamber this also prevents back flash. From there I would run the Hydrogen tube through a dryer (like the ones on compressors) and then the final destination is the intake. You now have a Gas/Hydrogen hybrid MB.
The reaction: H2O + Al -> AlO2 + H2 + heat
The reaction chamber must be able to handle heat and the caustic lye. You need to be able to add (fuel) water, lye and Aluminum as needed. Just think of it as a kind of low psi Hydrogen boost bottle.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:53 PM
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Well I think it is totally doable and am going to make up a system here when I get the motor straightened out and able to put out some amperage. And the frame together to put it on, you know, the small details.
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:01 PM
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Won't work on a bike because vaporized lye will destroy the aluminum in the engine. It gets past even multi-stage "scrubber". I tried it with lighter than air craft and with the extreme heat and caustic fumes it turned out less practical than HCl/Zn. Maybe try NO2 in tanks.

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How about an HH bubbler on bike instead

Run Your gas MB with supplemented Hydrogen from Aluminum and Lye. (no electrolysis)
hydrogen generator H2O + Al -> AlO2 + H2 + heat

How it works.

Put Aluminum into a tank of Lye (sodium hydroxide and water). Caution Lye is just as dangerous as acid.
The Sodium Hydroxide peels off the Aluminum Oxide surface from the Aluminum allowing water to come into contact with Aluminum metal. The Aluminum immediately oxidizes, ripping the water's Oxygen atoms away to make Aluminum Oxide.(collect and recycle please) That releases the Hydrogen which bubbles out to be burned in the engine.

This reaction produces pure Hydrogen as apposed to electrolysis which produces brown gas (O & H = explosion) I would place the reaction chamber behind you! Run the Hydrogen tube through a series of vinegar (mild acid) bottle bubblers to help neutralize any caustic vapor from the reaction chamber this also prevents back flash. From there I would run the Hydrogen tube through a dryer (like the ones on compressors) and then the final destination is the intake. You now have a Gas/Hydrogen hybrid MB.
The reaction: H2O + Al -> AlO2 + H2 + heat
The reaction chamber must be able to handle heat and the caustic lye. You need to be able to add (fuel) water, lye and Aluminum as needed. Just think of it as a kind of low psi Hydrogen boost bottle.
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