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Old 05-29-2011, 09:08 AM
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Several times WallyWorld jeans have come up in this thread. I won't buy pants there anymore. My complaint is 5 belt loops. Pants just need 7 at least with the best pants having 9 belt loops. With 5 you get the pants sliding under the belt with the belt digging into your back plus they look like crap (or a seat full of crap).

When you leave off something so simple as beltloops you have to wonder what other corners are going to be cut....

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Old 05-29-2011, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bairdco View Post
it's almost 2 in the morning, and i'm typing out freakin arguments to someone i'll never meet, don't care what kind of bike they ride, and who'll never take my advice anyway...

what the heck do i care if you buy a bike at walmart, anyway? knock yourself out.
Heh, my wife sent me this a couple years back, lol.

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Old 05-29-2011, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by oldtimer54 View Post
Look Ive tried to stay out of this as Ive chated (lol) about this with you before but the cheap lazy comment is just to far over the line! Iam nether cheap or lazy and to say that any one who buys from wally world is cheap or lazy is just wrong. Ever think about keeping this b* to your self untell you sober up? Might be a good idea? Peace

PS by the way I just dont get the lazy comment? Seems to me that trying to install an engine into one of these tiny wally world bikes is WAY more work. LMAO
walmart is the definition of cheap. it's the reason it exists. it's low prices on everything.

and since everything's in one place, it's a great place to shop for lazy people. you can make one trip to the store and buy everything from bicycles, televisions, fruit roll-ups, socks, and motor oil.

that's an undeniable fact.

but, i do understand the way my comment could be taken, and for that i apologize. you're right, building a motorized bike isn't exactly easy.

on the other hand, we are building motorized bicycles. that kinda makes all of us lazy, especially in the eyes of people who have to (or like to) pedal around.

and i thought i did pretty dang good at getting my point across whilst drunk...

Paul's right, though. i dunno why i've been in such an argumentative state lately. i need to relax.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:58 AM
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Hang in there bairdco,

We all get humped up over things sometime, and we say things that we really dont mean to be taken in a bad way but they are sometimes, that's when we do just what you did, we take a step back appologize if nesseccary and then just regroup and move forward.

I know many people just LOVE wally world....personally I dont like it at all, I had to sit back and watch all the really good variety stores with really nice home town people close up shop and go away for ever when we got the BIG BOX Store in our little 20,000 pop town, the old stores had much better products with plenty reasonable prices that nost were happy with, but wal-mart moves into a town with the goal of knocking out all the competition if at all possible, thats their game and they've done a very good job of it around these parts, now we are forced to buy online instead of shopping local because we cant hardly find anything we want anymore because wal-mart just sells the 2 bit junk and all the older good stores are almost all gone, we have 1 hardware store left the opened back in the 1800's and it is now about half the size it was 20 years ago.

If you are a wally world lover that is fine with have that right but I aint because I think they have doen way more harm than good in the small town of America


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Old 05-29-2011, 12:37 PM
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I know the South Park cartoon is always a little rough language wise. The cynicism fits tho kinda funny. Could not resist linking this one..

Something Wall Mart This Way Comes (Season 8, Episode 9) - Full Episode Player - South Park Studios
Still gotta have a since of humor.
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Old 05-29-2011, 02:13 PM
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I go to wall mart for dog chews.

And to pick up my OP Roller after I ordered it online.

Nothing else.
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Old 05-29-2011, 02:42 PM
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I generally find there are two types of people, those that smile while going into Wally World and those that moan, groan and b*t*h all the way through the door. Me, if they got what I want, at the best price, I get it. They're the top dog in supply chain management, they know what they're doing.

In the end, "it's not personal, it's strictly business".
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Old 05-29-2011, 05:14 PM
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Ok i picked up a huffy Nel Lusso for 119 at walmart straped on a grubee and no real problems welds are good i did have to grease everything as everthing is supposed to be when it is put together but the boobs at wal mart neglect to do during assembly. the fender an mounts are rather weak other than that its great i purchased it so i could upgrade as i go i am not nice to it an everthing is still fine. However i just purchased a schwinn clairmont (step through) for my wife got a deal i paid 99.96 but it is normally 159.99 one problem i attribute to again the boobs putting it together striped the bolt that holds the derailuer to th frame the frame threads are good just the bolt was bad. Sure these bikes are cheap if you plan on up grading as you want it will end up cheaper than paying 500.00 thas still made in china for one an still endup changing rims, forksm,etc. what ever you do dont trust the worksman ship. people will still cry garbage an go an spend 500.00 on a high end bike but in the end im into my motorized bicycle for only 270.00 total and have been clocked on radar at 33mph
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:10 PM
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I recently bought a Trek 820.

A decent, but not fantastic, low-end entry level mountain bike. 320 dollars. Pretty good value and I am happy the competition from Wally has kept prices of the competition low.

I like it. Unlike other Treks it has steel frame with 36 spoke wheels and that's basically why I bought it.

Meanwhile there is the Roadmaster Granite Peak 26"... $80 dollars.

* Wheels. Probably similar

* Brakes probably similar.

* Front fork. 820 is far stronger and also has mounting points to panniers. Has quick release.

* Frame:
820 has stronger looking Head tube
Top tube and down tubes are similar looking
820 has stronger seat tube. The quick release for the seat is bigger, stronger.
820 seat stays and chain stays are bigger, beefier.
820 Welds are better
820 has mounting points all over. 4 on the rear drop out, 3 on the seat stay, 2 on the seat tube, 2 on the down tube. The Roadmaster only has the mounts on the down tube.

* Headset: 820's headset is much stronger.

* Handle bars/controls... break levers on both are functional looking. 820's shifters are much better. Better grips on the 820.

* 820 has better seat tube attachment.

* 820's saddle is better. Those cheap 'comfort seats' are ok for a while, but will eventually squish up into the soft parts of your butt and will cause lots of uncomfortable soreness instead of supporting the hard parts of your butt correctly.

* The crankset is probably similar on both bikes. Cheap. The Roadmaster has a guard on it, which is a good thing. Pedals on the 820 are much better. Hard to say on the bearings, but the Roadmaster is obviously going to have the cheapest possible.

* Derailleur. Both have cheap parts. 820 has extra "very low" low gear which is actually very handy.

The Verdict:

The Wally World bike is the cheapest of the cheap. It uses outdated and inferior components in order to be so inexpensive. It's not just that it's made by the chinese, it's the cheapest the chinese can make it.

Is it going to kill you? No. Liability concerns are good enough that it has obviously adequate brakes. The frame is not terrible either. It's average and probably won't cause problems. Stronger then your average road bike.

The 820 is not a good bike either. It's painfully adequate. Trek is a average brand and 820 is their entry level offering. But it's decent and will get the job done and it's stronger and built with better components then the Wally bike.

With the Wally bike at 80 and the Trek at 320 is the Trek worth 4x the amount of the Wally bike? No, probably not. But that is not all your buying. With the 820 your getting it assembled and inspected by a real bike mechanic and no some 17 year old.

Your not going to get damaged head tube. Your not going to get shallow welds, a headset that is going to come loose after 40 miles and start wiggling and rattling. Your not going to see stripped bolts and derailleurs that are all out of adjustment. Your brakes are going to be correctly adjusted and it's going to be properly setup. Bolts are not going to fly off and go missing. These are all common problems with Wally bikes and you are spending money to avoid this. Your going to get a good warrantee and a place you can take your bike too to get fixed and worked on professionally.

So say that's a hundred bucks....

Can you spend money on upgrading the Wally bike and get something better then 820 for the same price?

NO you cannot. A fork costs a minimum of about 150-200 bucks. You'll end up with a BETTER fork then the 820, but that's just one of dozens of cheap pieces. And no matter how much money you spend on it you will always have a inferior frame.

If you are willing to drop 1K on a bicycle (ignoring the motor) you can have just as good components as if I spent 1K on my 820. The difference is that my frame will still be better.

If you want to build up a frame you can get ones for 75-150 dollars that are better then my 820 by a long shot....

Is the Wally bike horrible? No.

Is it going to kill you or break on you? All bikes break eventually, but if you keep the wally on the road and avoid potholes and accidents then it should last for a long time.

But there is are very good reasons why I shopped at a real bike store...
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nate-m View Post
I recently bought a Trek 820.
But there is are very good reasons why I shopped at a real bike store...
A fair analysis (won't quote it all) both bikes you can get on and ride down the street, no problem, the question for each is how long. Most department store bikes end up being used a few weekends for pedaling around and put away when fall comes. The manufacturers know that. Many motorized bikes the same.
The point is: Usage, how much and how long does the user expect vs the overall investment.

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