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Old 02-27-2012, 12:05 AM
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That's just it there is something I am missing here? Because I have had way better luck with skinny rims. I am going to mebbe try laying a hose or something in of sorts to simulate a skinny rim? Keeping the tire scrunched closer together. But that is pretty much what I did without putting something to hold it there. The bead sat tight enough once on . ''the first one'' it sat where I wanted it to. As for tube? I could have thrown that over my shoulder and tried putting these tires on with out them in the equitation that ain't it. My tube did not blow out . It was the tire bead that gave away!

I have had tires that I did not need any pry tools at all and I have had tires that needed them. I had a buddy help me with my rear tire. The same model I ran all summer. It has a wire bead. It took two sets of hands. He broke his plastic china tire spoons as well. I told him not to use them but he insisted his are gone as well. The only ones that worked were my steel ones that I constructed..
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Old 02-27-2012, 12:13 AM
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Could just be a defect. See if you can get a discount or your money back. With brand new tread they shouldn't take it for JRA, like if you wore them out and then said you wanted a new one.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:22 AM
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I am weary of using the tire spoons for the last bit of putting the tire on. I use it to get as much as 1 foot of bead left. Then I just use the palms of my hands.

I'm not saying you damaged it using tools at all, just this is what I have always done to avoid pinching the tube, but maybe it also may be better for the tire bead too?

I also have a big container of pure talc that I got from Tap Plastics and it I use liberally on the tube and inside the tire. I then spread it with a rag and use compressed air to blast off most of it leaving a fine coating everywhere. The spoke protector band I also use it on.

When I pump the tire up first I go about enough to press the bead in but not enough to ride on. I then deflate fully and do that again. I used my hand to with it at a very low pressure to use my cupped hands to push the tire into the rim and seating the bead. Alas another time and up to full pressure. Extra work but I do it.

Many of the tires how I see many of them in the stores I don't like the slightest deformation in the bead. Maybe I pick through them and find one or just go elsewhere. I may hear them say the folded tires do not damage the bead. I wonít buy one that is sold in a package folded and they sell them that way.

If I took a long trip and had to take an extra tire, I would find a way of leaving it uncompressed or bended in any way.

You should see if there is any warranty or if the store will do a good will gesture, canít hurt to try.

Glad to hear youíre OK!

Oh yea forgot to say I just use real spoons from the kitchen that have a nice rounded edge and are wide enough to spread pressure out. The ones I saw sold have not so much rounded edges I think thatís not right.

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Old 02-27-2012, 08:34 AM
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OK, I got a bunch of tire work looming on the horizon...
Beavis got my two decent irons, which probably would scratch rims.
I'm a hack,though, and use whatever screwdrivers are in the area. NOT good!

If someone is doing composite layup, the world really does need some good CF tire levers!

Here's what I have just found:

ParkTool-TL-5-hd

Sette ST-3123

Topeak TTL 002 Shuttle Lever 1.2

Pedros DH Yellow Tire Lever

and THIS last one is REALLY neato looking!

Kool-Stop Tire Bead Jack

I think if i had the bucks, I'd buy 'em all, all at one time!
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:19 AM
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Finished putting my 66cc china girl back on my bike that already has my staton 33.5cc friction drive. Due to having the extra weight of another engine, theres alot more vibration when i run the china girl but I'm lookin' into that. Im using the sbp universal front motor mount and it doesn't make much of a difference due to all the extra weight of the other motor but its a wip(work in progress). I got a 1 gallon tank from thatsdax...and its huge!...and dirty. Had to clean it out as usual. It takes up nearly every bit of room between my handlebar post and the front of my seat. I may upgrade my pedal crank arms to a wide crank. My knees slightly brush the sides of the tank. She runs once more though! I've got good ol' permatex gasket sealer in between the gaskets and mating surfaces. Gonna work on gettin' her to idle. I used the damp pro stuff, and after i noticed it was interfering a bit with the flower nut, i cut a little bit out of the center and now its good. It doesn't stop the rubbin' noise of the flower nut on the cover. I've got a few ideas(duct tape, electrical tape, maybe a few cotton balls, or foam underneath the tape). Next step, work on the idle. Probably need to solder the jet and drill it a bit smaller. Also i'm lookin' at trailers. I may buy a kid carrier and modify it or just buy a cargo trailer. Gonna go campin' in a lil' under two months. Can't wait for the trip.
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:48 AM
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I haven't actually even hopped a single leg over the motor bike in like 5 months. well the other day I unlock it( its been uncovered to the elements) and withing 7 pedals it cranks right up.

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Old 02-27-2012, 11:13 AM
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Thats one of the beauties of a 2 smoker, just not a whole lot to go wrong, hard to keep a 2 smoker down.





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I haven't actually even hopped a single leg over the motor bike in like 5 months. well the other day I unlock it( its been uncovered to the elements) and withing 7 pedals it cranks right up.

woo hoo
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Old 02-27-2012, 08:18 PM
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I had a good day today. I fooled around with my grubee bike, and replaced the boost bottle hose. It has been sitting in storage, so I dusted it off and went over things.

The spark boot is toast. I think I figured out why so many of these bikes have ignition problems. I never really noticed till now, but I think the stock boot is made to clip on the threads of the spark plug, not to "pop" on there and use the ball tip. Mine had arc burns and the boot rubber was all crusted up. At least I have the CDI that lets the wire just screw right off. I'll pick up a new proper wire and boot tomorrow from the motorcycle shop.

I've heard bikers say "It is what it is." Is that like "Cies't la vie" (Such is life), or more like "s* happens"? I think the motorized bicycle motto should be "It is what it does." ;-)
I was thinking I didn't really like this bike anymore, but I pedaled it around the block, and it felt good, bouncing on big fat tires, and I like the looks of it.
Still not as fun as my Tanaka bike!


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I saw someone use a penny soldered to the plug wire before. I tried it, and it didn't hold up. I guess they used a real copper penny and cleaned it really well.
A proper boot and wire will be loads better though, and I might be able to use my $10 computer again without it going haywire. ahhaha. I lost track of the miles on this thing because it was always resetting.

The china kits are fun, but a PITA. It's so worth it though when I'm chugging along, grinning like a kid.
I think I'll keep an eye out for an old mtn bike to swap all these parts too, then it will be like a new bike! (3 speed front, dual v's, maybe a shock). Something to dream about tonight.

My food tastes better when I think about bikes, when I ride somewhere I can still see the stars at night, and when it only costs a couple bucks to fill up.
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Old 02-27-2012, 08:54 PM
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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg
$11.50 Kool Stop Bead Jack
http://www.amazon.com/Kool-Stop-Tire.../dp/B001AYML7K

Looks pretty nice.

Google search "steel tyre lever" (or tire lever) and you can find some thin ones that look like the regular plastic ones (instead of the very thick chinese metal ones like I use for lawmower tires lol)

I have used these for years: plastic set of 3
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:29 PM
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Those blue ones are the ones I broke. They were fine for others tires, yet with those tires I could almost use my bare hands. Thanks for the links guy's! Gonna do some studying. That kool stop looks interesting Happy.. When I come up with the approach and technique that makes sense enough to share. I will definitely share it! I don't give up easy ever. Too many years as a auto tech etc.

In hind sight what I should have done was simply put motorcycle rims and get super duper tires. They don't seam to offer much in a 24X3.0..
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