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01-16-2010, 02:49 PM
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Why?
Why why why why....why. Why do the Chinese insist on using the cheapest POS screws? AND WHY DO THEY INSIST ON OVER TORQUING THEM!! AAAAARRRRRRGGGHHH!!
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01-16-2010, 05:05 PM
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Re: Why?
I have thought about the slotted screw heads myself. I figure it one of two ways or maybe both. It's cheaper to make slotted screw heads and the slotted screw heads keep the assemblers from over doing the torque and snapping them off. I'm working on a build with a vintage feeling so I am willingly keeping the slotted heads. I've had the covers off and on and it seams a proper fitting screw driver blade works wonders. They are tight but a good fitting large screw driver does back them out. I can only speak for myself.
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01-16-2010, 06:26 PM
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Re: Why?
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Originally Posted by sojudave
Why why why why....why. Why do the Chinese insist on using the cheapest POS screws?
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They need to recycle the metal from their nuclear reactors somehow!
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01-16-2010, 07:14 PM
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Re: Why?
That is to cool Max!
Can I use that on my web site?
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01-17-2010, 09:35 AM
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Re: Why?
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That is to cool Max!
Can I use that on my web site?
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Let me consult my attorneys and I'll get back to you...
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01-17-2010, 07:18 PM
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Re: Why?
I'm working with a 4-stroke so I've replaced all but two clutch cover screws, and the four screws that bolt the engine to the plate with allen bolts from home depot. Then I locktited the ayche ee double hockey sticks out of them. I would recommend anyone with anything but allen bolts on their engines to do this. It will allow for tighter fastening and less odds of stripping.
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01-17-2010, 07:24 PM
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Re: Why?
I bought some door weatherstrip screws from HD the other day......even WORSE than HT hardware, if you can even get your head around that. Fasteners made out of pot metal - pure junk. I took them back the next trip and laid into them. I'm writing a letter to HD. I'm not expecting Aerospace titanium hardware for my house, but wow....
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01-20-2010, 02:31 AM
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Re: Why?
I just went to my local Hardware store yesterday, and bought 12 metric socket head screws. For all my side covers. They seem to work better, seem tighter, and alot easier to work on. A lil pricey tho. I paid $9.20 for the 12. I have 2 more motors, thats close to 30 bucks for screws. Crazy. I ordered a intake manifold from jim at creative, and when I got it, he included a couple extra alen heads, so i used them on my muffler, and on my other motors intakes, looks nice, and seemed to be easier.
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01-22-2010, 10:43 PM
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Re: Why?
The screws and bolts used in bicycles and these motor kits are pretty small. It isn't practical to use the "reef it down until it goes soft and back it out on quarter turn" method. These fasteners, except for the head bolts, need to be snugged down, not as tight as you can get them. No gorilla needed here.
Allen head socket screws are good, second choice would be slotted heads. Worst of all is Phillips, these are the easiest to strip out the heads to the point the screwdriver won't take them out. Be careful with Loctite, it can make it difficult to remove the screws later on. One useful thing is to replace the nuts on the mounting bolts with self locking nuts. Not on the exhaust or intake unless you get all metal self locking nuts which won't lose their grip when hot.
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02-01-2010, 09:15 AM
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Re: Why?
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Originally Posted by Pablo
I bought some door weatherstrip screws from HD the other day......even WORSE than HT hardware, if you can even get your head around that. Fasteners made out of pot metal - pure junk. I took them back the next trip and laid into them. I'm writing a letter to HD. I'm not expecting Aerospace titanium hardware for my house, but wow....
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we get a bit of haat here makes you wonder how they dont break them while trying to make them.... to help the issue ask them to ask the makers of the **** to put fragile on the boxes the screws get shipped in
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