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10-23-2009, 05:16 PM
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Coleman tank for 50 Schwinn straight bar
I was going to jump right in to the Coleman fuel tank and then thought it might be better to give a little background. First off about a month ago I had the good fortune to find a skip tooth Schwinn at the local dump (OK, Sanitary Refuse Transfer Station or something like that... they have a metal pile which I always look through). I got it home and took a picture, studied it and thought I found a picture of it in a Schwinn book I have. I thought it was a DX model as the paint job looked right and being a skip tooth I figured it was pre-WWII. Whatever it was, I knew I liked it and saw that the frame and front fork were perfect. So, I stripped it down to bare metal, primed it and gave it a paint job with black engine enamel, Dupli color as suggested by several people here on the forum. I took the original seat apart, wirebrushed the metal, gave it some additional padding and upholstered it with black elk hide which I had on hand for making moccasins. While I was at it I covered an old lawn mower cylindrical tank in the same leather figured to mount behind the seat. To be continued...
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10-23-2009, 05:38 PM
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Re: Coleman tank for 50 Schwinn straight bar
So, it was coming together. I learned from VeniceBoy and BarelyAWake that what I had was actually a 1950 Schwinn Straightbar Hornet, a frame also shared with the Panther model. Cool. Now I knew what it was and when it was made down to the month and day. Thank you, guys! I was liking the bike more and more as it went along. I ordered a front badge for an American Flyer and a new sprocket in the same "sweetheart" pattern as the original, but with the modern tooth pattern. I liked the leather covered tank and made leather covers for the hand grips which turned out pretty nice, but I still wanted a bigger gas tank and wanted to do something with that space between the crossbars. While thinking about it I found an old feather chain guard on eBay and also a NOS rear rack. I have yet to straighten out the chain guard, but the rack is mounted and looks really good. I had been thinking about using a fire extinguisher for a fuel tank to fit between the crossmembers... tried mine and found it was too big. Then a few days ago I was in a tractor supply store and saw a Coleman fuel tank which looked about right. I took it with me to the plumbing department and discovered that a 3/4" male copper pipe fitting screwed in to the end of the tank. I picked up a couple of elbows and a female fitting for the filler cap to fit in to. Here are some photos showing it along with a leather handgip and the little leather covered aluminum tank for behind the seat.
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10-23-2009, 05:57 PM
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Re: Coleman tank for 50 Schwinn straight bar
Three questions silverbear,
1. What about a breather? With the setup you have there there's no way for air to get back into the tank.
2. How are you going to install the fuel line? Those bottles are aluminum and thin so tapping into the side or even the bottom isn't going to work.
3. Why didn't you buy the red one?
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10-23-2009, 06:05 PM
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Re: Coleman tank for 50 Schwinn straight bar
When you use the end of the bottle like that for a filler, there is going to be a giant air bubble in the top of the tank that never gets filled!!!
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10-23-2009, 06:07 PM
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Re: Coleman tank for 50 Schwinn straight bar
I removed the 'Coleman' logo with very fine steel wool and discovered that the aluminum underneath shined up pretty nicely, so I shined the whole thing. I found a 3/4" cast iron plug at the hardware yesterday, so that will serve as a gas cap. I have yet to follow Norm's advice and build up the aluminum in the two spots which will be drilled and tapped. As suggested I'll use aluminum "welding rod" which one can solder with a propane torch. One spot will be for the fuel line and shutoff and the other will be above for an air vent. I don't know yet how I'll finally mount it, but today set it in place with a couple of little leather pads to protect the paint. It is held temporarily with a couple of zip ties. At least now I can get an idea of what it will look like. I think I like it. Maybe somebody else can use a Coleman tank on their build as well. It could also mount lengthwise on a behind the seat rack. The price was right. I paid $5.00 for the tank and another five or six dollars for the fittings. No special tools, so for some of us that's a plus.
SB
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10-23-2009, 06:13 PM
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Re: Coleman tank for 50 Schwinn straight bar
Oops, he wasn't done yet. lol
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10-23-2009, 06:14 PM
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Re: Coleman tank for 50 Schwinn straight bar
I was busy typing and didn't see your posts until now. I think that tapping a vent hole at the top of the end should take care of that. Shouldn't the filler tube and tank reach the same level so long as the air in the upper portion of the tank can escape?
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10-23-2009, 06:15 PM
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Re: Coleman tank for 50 Schwinn straight bar
venice boy and WHO found out what model bike you had?
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10-23-2009, 06:22 PM
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Re: Coleman tank for 50 Schwinn straight bar
Before you put a vent into the tank you could put a vent IN the tank.
Get some small copper or brass tubing, feed it through your fittings and leave a few inches sticking out either end. Spot solder the tubing inside one of your elbows to hold it in place, bend a "hook" in it where it goes into the bottle so the end of the tube is near the top of the bottle when all the fittings are in place. For purely cosmetics replace your pipe plug and female fitting with a male fitting and a brass cap with a rubber seal. Drill a hole on the center of the cap (or your plug) the same size as the tubing so it can come through the cap, slip an o-ring over the tube so it contacts the cap when it's tight. Presto, a nearly hidden tank vent and one less hole you have to make in the tank.
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10-23-2009, 06:26 PM
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Re: Coleman tank for 50 Schwinn straight bar
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Originally Posted by bairdco
venice boy and WHO found out what model bike you had? 
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Oops... yeah, you right. You da man!
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