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09-23-2009, 05:29 PM
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48cc ban?
I just got an email from a regular eBay seller of the China Gas kits saying that there is a good possibility the US is going to ban the import of these engines.. Anyone else heard this?
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09-23-2009, 05:52 PM
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Re: 48cc ban?
sounds like a sales pitch to me,buy now before its too late!
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09-23-2009, 05:58 PM
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Re: 48cc ban?
I've heard the same thing, but I can't get any details on it!!
I also heard that 1/1/10 is the cut off date. we'll see??
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09-23-2009, 06:01 PM
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Re: 48cc ban?
i herd that it could happen in 12 t0 18 months due to the government trying to get rid of 2 smokers due to emissions and that china will have to meet the U.S specs in order to sell these motors, there was also something about bigger companies (STIHL and others selling mass quantities of chainsaws and other yard tools) feeling undercutted by the standards they must follow that these china companies are getting away with. I plan on stocking up in the next few months just in case this happens
Last edited by wes; 09-24-2009 at 10:14 AM.
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09-23-2009, 06:45 PM
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Re: 48cc ban?
well. I have dealt with the same guy on multiple occasions, and each time he's been solidly honest with me in our dealings ,which is why I come back to him specifically. I know from JUST reading an article on MSNBC that we are going to start heavy tariffs on Chinese imports as a whole, as well as taxes for the companies here that distribute,meaning our lil China Girls are gonna have to be paid big money for like Vegas hookers.
SO.
The next obvious question is: Who are making these engines here up to par with the EPA, and what type of patents do these engines have on em? I mean..tons of different companies over there are making them, so why can't we find a way to reverse engineer, improve on standards, and mass produce it here? I actually do know an owner of a local West Michigan metal shop who does parts for GM as well as the aeronautics industry..
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09-23-2009, 06:49 PM
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Re: 48cc ban?
Mass produced here? Yea for maybe $500 to $1000 per engine. There is no way on earth that we can compete with China for cheap goods.
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09-23-2009, 06:53 PM
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Re: 48cc ban?
if they do ban the chinese imports, it won't be a matter of competition, it will be a matter of perpetuating a market. If I could get an engine that didn't need constant repairs and was reliably built and produced locally, I'd be ok with a $500 tag on it. I've already had to put over $130 in parts and mods on the engine I paid $200 for, so to me it's an even trade.
It is the battle of quality vs quantity. You want to spend cheap all you get is cheaply made..
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09-23-2009, 07:04 PM
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Re: 48cc ban?
I don't think this ban is because they are "made in China"... It's because they are 2-stroke gasoline engines that are being used on the streets.
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09-23-2009, 07:20 PM
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Re: 48cc ban?
They went after two stroke lawn mowers and out boards years ago and made them run cleaner or they went to four stroke. You don't see two stroke lawn mowers any more.
They were hot after chain saws too but a four stoke is heavier and and can't be tipped at different angles.
Think the China girl are going to be a victim of thier own sucess and the tree huggers.
Start pricing the Morini Franco engines.
Steve
Last edited by Dave31; 09-23-2009 at 08:13 PM.
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09-23-2009, 07:28 PM
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Re: 48cc ban?
Or come up with a cheap synthetic fuel that doesn't burn as dirty.. hah. like that'll happen.
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