We need a new forum classifacation

But that beast was manufactured by someone else! The very jest of motorized bicycling is that it is DIY and you take a bicycle and a motor separately and combine the two. Next someone will want to add a section on 2-stroke motorcycles as well and then motorcycles. I think motor bicycling is great as a niche market and not something else.

But...........I am not a mod so my two sense doesn't count.

I concur biknut...I've had a brand new moped that required work out of the box...i sold it...lost money on the deal too...but, had there been some forum at this time id have tried to fix it...so I agree that there should be an additional topic section for mopeds...the knowledge is similar and could definitely lead to more business and more information surely...you have my vote..

You guys bought brand new mopeds that didn't run out of the box?

What? They are crap like happy times only the whole thing is crap and not just the motor?

Why bother?

I have a motor bicycle becuase I don't wear a sweater well tied around my neck and I don't have a tennis racket to sling over my back.

This topic has been addressed at length here;
Mopeds The Other Motorized Bicycles

& the gist of it is as this is primarily a "DIY" bicycle conversion & custom fabrication forum, mopeds while welcome to be discussed, are somewhat contrary to the point as UVsaturated mentioned;

UVsaturated said:

But that beast was manufactured by someone else! The very jest of motorized bicycling is that it is DIY and you take a bicycle and a motor separately and combine the two. Next someone will want to add a section on 2-stroke motorcycles as well and then motorcycles. I think motor bicycling is great as a niche market and not something else.

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The Tavern is still a great section for posting threads regarding off topic, but related subjects such as mopeds, motorcycles, gokarts & the like

I 100% support the idea Biknut, it can't be of harm unless people are really motivated to hate on mopeds.

The technology crossover is invaluable, and mopeds can be customized and stripped or whatever. My OCC is a moped, it's not a motorized bicycle since it's not a bike to pedal primarily. Like if I were to put a set of pegs into an empy bottom bracket, I would consider a bicycle a form of moped or motorized scooter, like a goped definition type of thing legally.

People get all caught up in definitions and the semantics of it creates lines of division. It sure would be a test to see who has too much time on their hands to hate mopeds, lol. A Whizzer is a moped too, just a classicly styled one along the lines of a Sears Allstate moped.

The recent picture threads show how every different combi nation of two wheeled vehicle has already been done, and the fact that each has its own valid rationale behind its design to get around, haul stuff, but mainly have fun.

I say why not.


EDIT, durr, just now read though the whole thing and the last post by BA, and I respect whatever. Just thought I'd voice my opinion on the matter. Mopeds have sick engines and brakes, although the mope community would be mad POed about motor-bicycle people coming in and sniping all of their unobtanium off the open market which is a tight niche.

Every time a new subsection suggestion is presented there's division between the relative applicability of the proposed section vs the intent of the forum vs how "cluttered" the sections have become - as this forum was created specifically to provide a place for people to discuss their homebuilt motorized bicycles, a subsection for factory built mopeds hasn't been well received overall.

I personally am not dead set against the idea: http://motorbicycling.com/showpost.php?p=227256&postcount=11 yet on the other hand there's some good reasons not to brought up by the staff & members alike regarding trying to keep the focus of the forum.

To play "devil's advocate" for a moment & make a few observations just to illustrate the difficulties...

"The technology crossover is invaluable" - as many motorized bicycles are homebuilt resourcing from any number of sources, this infers we could have subsections for gas powered generators & waterpumps, four wheelers, dirtbikes & pit bikes, gokarts & anything else we could possibly salvage parts from...

"Like if I were to put a set of pegs into an empy bottom bracket, I would consider a bicycle a form of moped or motorized scooter" - "moped" is typically a legal definition specifying a factory built vehicle conforming to a specific set of criteria, including the presence of pedals. As such what one individual considers their build to be isn't really a consideration when defining a new section, rather that what the common usage of the term is.

"People get all caught up in definitions and the semantics of it creates lines of division." - a new subsection is all about considering definitions, different sections are inherently "lines of division" else it wouldn't matter where or what was posted.

"unless people are really motivated to hate on mopeds" & "too much time on their hands to hate mopeds" - no one is suggesting there's any "hate" on mopeds, rather more that it's like showing up to a custom hot rod show with a minivan... sure they have wheels, there's even some crossover tech - but it's still very much "apples & oranges".



In the thread linked above: http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?t=24507 it was suggested that all whom are interested in mopeds to post in that thread and there was very little in the way of an overall response - had there been a significant number of replies it would have doubtlessly been reviewed with greater consideration.

Given the administration's stated intent for the forum itself, ie "motorized bicycles" or "a bicycle with a motor attached" and the general lack of interest from the majority of our members we've no plans to add an additional subsection specifically for mopeds - but as mentioned before, they're more than welcome in The Tavern and again, if there's enough members posting about their mopeds in that section, it's very possible that a new subsection would be considered - as it stands we'd have few to no threads to import to a new section in any case

Agreed *shrug*

...but remember, please do create a thread & post about your moped creations & adventures in The Taven bikenut (and anyone else ofc lol), they're more than welcome there & I'm sure there's much to be shared - who knows what the future may hold if it takes off?

There are Moped forums already out there, I'm sure they wouldn't mind if you suggested they add motorized bicycles to their forum.