The Chinese copy the "Fred Head"!

crmachineman · Dec 10, 2013

Boom! It happened!
Not much of a surprise.
About 4 months ago, gasbike asked me if I would wholesale them my "Fred Heads", and I agreed.
They purchased the minimum order and promptly sent one to China to be copied.
Of course, this was done without my permission.

No worries folks: I'm not going to let gasbike and kingsmotorbikes shut my shop down!

I've been preparing for this sort of thing for some time now, and I'm ready for battle!

I will be significantly lowering the price of all center fire Fred Heads.

Now, making the right decision will not hurt your wallet.

xct2

Thank you all for being awesome!

-Fred

Intrepid Wheelwoman · Dec 10, 2013

What a rotten thing to do.

Some businesses have no concept of correct moral behaviour, or intellectual property.

GearNut · Dec 10, 2013

Sadly, this sort of industry back stabbing does not surprise me. I am sorry to hear that it happened to you too.
Do you have a web site/ storefront?
What other products do you offer?
I have a 66cc sitting on my work bench that I am slowly upgrading to be as efficient and bullet proof as I can make it. Port matching and polishing only do so much...

Danschutz · Dec 10, 2013

GearNut said:
Sadly, this sort of industry back stabbing does not surprise me. I am sorry to hear that it happened to you too.
Do you have a web site/ storefront?
What other products do you offer?
I have a 66cc sitting on my work bench that I am slowly upgrading to be as efficient and bullet proof as I can make it. Port matching and polishing only do so much...

You can check out Freds page at Crmachine.com and check out his facebook page, China girl lovers club. Lots of good info traded there daily. Ive purchased my stuff from him on his ebay store seller name turrettooling

Dan.

fasteddy · Dec 10, 2013

There are two things against the heads that Gas Bike will be selling. They're being sold by Gas Bike and they will be made in cousin Lim's closet in China.

Not your guarantee of quality.

Steve.

massdrive · Dec 10, 2013

I just placed an order for clutch pads from GasBike. I'm thinking this will be my last order form them. I'm also thinking that we, someone, perhaps me should reproduce the china girl here in the states. Call it the "American girl"? Show them how it should be done, can be done... Can you imagine that a high quality reliable 49cc and 66cc 2 stroke right out of the box. Now there is something the Chinese manufactures can't duplicate!
usflg

crassius · Dec 10, 2013

massdrive said:
Can you imagine that a high quality reliable 49cc and 66cc 2 stroke right out of the box. Now there is something the Chinese manufactures can't duplicate!

isn't that the arrow engine at $900 ??

massdrive · Dec 10, 2013

I would think that to duplicate also means to be competitively priced in the same market. But that's just my opinion...

Venice Motor Bikes · Dec 10, 2013

That really sucks!

As a fellow small vendor, I'll be supporting Fred in the future!

MotorBicycleRacing · Dec 10, 2013

crassius said:
isn't that the arrow engine at $900 ??

The Arrow Street Racer motor is only $499

culvercityclassic · Dec 11, 2013

I own one of the Fred heads, yet to try it tho. Can I get a rebate since you lowered the price.... Lol

MotorBicycleRacing · Dec 10, 2013

Danschutz said:
You can check out Freds page at Crmachine.com and check out his facebook page, China girl lovers club. Lots of good info traded there daily. Ive purchased my stuff from him on his ebay store seller name turrettooling

Dan.

100% Made in USA and priced dropped from $85 to $68

Motorized bicycle Stage 2 high performance 7.2 cc cylinder head 66 / 80 cc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorized-b...Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item20d7b6c319

Motorized bicycle Stage 2 high performance 5.3 cc cylinder head 66 / 80 cc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorized-b...Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item20dc7beb48dance1

Huffydavidson · Dec 11, 2013

Well after learn this unfortunate treachery now all my Lightening CDIs are in case in black epoxy just like the Chinese cdi is. We couldn't get theirs open and their sure as he!! not getting into mine. On this last run I almost used Red&Green dye in the epoxy just keep to it Christmasy☆☆☆☆☆

GearNut · Dec 11, 2013

Thank you very much, Danschutz!
I too will support Fred as much as I can.

Danschutz · Dec 11, 2013

GearNut said:
Thank you very much, Danschutz!
I too will support Fred as much as I can.

Sure thing. Fred is a great fellow and a major spokesperson for motoredbikes and one of a few vendors that keeps this hobby moving forward. Now I wait for my 5.3 head to arrive

Dan.

whipaway · Dec 11, 2013

crmachineman said:
They purchased the minimum order and promptly sent one to China to be copied.

Shoulda made the minumum order for them 1000 pieces!

MotorBicycleRacing · Dec 11, 2013

culvercityclassic said:
I own one of the Fred heads, yet to try it tho. Can I get a rebate since you lowered the price.... Lol

If you buy another one you can breed them then sell the offspring.

Only Fred heads have big nuts!

Motorized bicycle Stage 2 high performance 6.0 cc cylinder head 66 / 80 cc

Fred head with big nuts! Only $68 with FREE shipping!

maniac57 · Dec 11, 2013

My understanding was these heads were selling for $200 plus dollars.
Now they are $68 with shipping?!?!?
Much as I love American made quality, they were just far too expensive for me to ever consider. Now, due to someone else copying and selling it for less, the price drops almost $150 bucks?
That is strange.
Whats the deal here Fred?

MotorBicycleRacing · Dec 11, 2013

maniac57 said:
My understanding was these heads were selling for $200 plus dollars.
Now they are $68 with shipping?!?!?
Much as I love American made quality, they were just far too expensive for me to ever consider. Now, due to someone else copying and selling it for less, the price drops almost $150 bucks?
That is strange.
Whats the deal here Fred?

Your understanding is incorrect.
You already asked this question once and I straightened you out. Did you forget that fast? I can find the post if you want?

The standard Fred heads were $85 and are now $68 with FREE shipping to compete with a gasbike Chinese knock off.

That would be a $17 price drop.

there are still more exotic Fred heads selling for a couple hundred dollars.

This is the ebay link to Freds store so you can see for yourself all
the heads available.

maniac57 · Dec 11, 2013

Must have been thinking of the "exotic" head.
I DO remember thinking how I could buy several kits for the same money.
Nevermind.
(I'm still recovering from the 70's)

Danschutz · Dec 11, 2013

maniac57 said:
(I'm still recovering from the 70's)

LoL

Highwaystar · Dec 11, 2013

What a shame.

I have seen this happen in the large scale rc community over the past few years. I have friends that are/were manufacturers. Most everyone has been ripped off.

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