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Old 10-17-2015, 07:38 PM
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Default 98cc Villiers on a 1945 Sears Roebuck

So it's been quite a while since I've posted although I've been "around" and I've stayed busy. I'm just getting started on a build using a frame I bought about a year ago. It's a '45 Sears Roebuck made by Elgin. My understanding is that it's a fairly uncommon bike but I intend to hack it up anyway. The down tube is dented and the non-drive side stays are bent, the original paint is gone and it's been black powder coated. There's way too much work and money to put into a restore that it wouldn't be worth it so why not. I also have a section of a mid 1930's Elgin step through frame that I'm planing to use as a donor to replace that dented down tube. I recall someone using the top tube of a step through as the down tube in a drop loop type frame. That's what I'm going for.
Just this week I finally scored an engine that I thought would be appropriate for the bike and the vintage. It's a 1950ish Villiers 98cc two cycle. I plan to hunt down the S/N for more information although the seller said he brought it over from Australia. My guess is it was originally used on a reel type mower. The photo is from the eBay ad. Any tips on these engines would be appreciated as would pointers on welding/brazing in the frame section.



Here's the frame. Rear facing drop outs and rear standard mounts too.



Thought this would be just as good a place as any to accumulate links:

eBay source with frequent Villiers and vintage parts:
http://www.ebay.com/usr/toys4dwb2?_t...p2047675.l2559

Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1481...34467/?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1381...56377/?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/groups/489195994594350/

Villiers parts and reference:
http://www.villiersparts.co.uk/
http://www.g1jbg.co.uk/autoculto/pdf/viliersmidget.pdf
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pa...cc/arc0596.htm
http://www.communitywebs.org/Adelaid...nes-part-1.pdf
http://www.communitywebs.org/Adelaid...part-2--1-.pdf
http://www.oldlawnmowerclub.co.uk/si...o%20172055.pdf
http://www.outdoorking.com/forum/ubb...r=47262&page=1
http://www.oldlawnmowerclub.co.uk/si...20Standard.pdf
http://www.oldlawnmowerclub.co.uk/makehelp/atco/date
http://www.tanygraig.force9.co.uk/John/vil2strokes.htm
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...tRuWk6AQuRz9Dg
http://www.villiers.info/index.php

British hardware:
http://britishfasteners.com

Gas/oil mix recommendations:
http://motorbicycling.com/showpost.p...&postcount=138

Other Villiers build threads here and elsewhere:
http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?t=47993
http://ratrodbikes.com/forum/index.p...cruiser.38978/
http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?t=30828
http://me-moto.com/custom-built-moto...otorbikes.html
http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?t=50335
http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?t=60868

Albion gearbox parts and reference:
http://www.barnstormers.co.nz/?s=Alb...&submit=Search
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...qxcXdTaGWmenPw

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Old 10-17-2015, 07:50 PM
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Wowser. Keep the pics comin.
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Old 10-17-2015, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: 98cc Villiers on a 1945 Sears Roebuck

If you do Facebook, these are useful pages:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1481...34467/?fref=ts
Several members use 98cc Villiers powered autocycles.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1381...56377/?fref=ts
Probably useful if it is a mower use engine.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/489195994594350/
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Old 10-17-2015, 09:40 PM
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Pics as progress happens!

Thanks for the FB links. I've requested to be added to all of them.
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Old 10-18-2015, 10:32 AM
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Here's the thread over at RatRodBikes that talks about the vintage of the bike frame. I'm toying with the idea of going with a Sears motorcycle paint scheme since they are so similar.
http://ratrodbikes.com/forum/index.p...in-info.53225/

Here's the bike:


And here's a Sears motorcycle:

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Glad to see your post. Yep both are very cool.. Good luck
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Old 10-18-2015, 06:15 PM
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Hey, thanks Moto. Long time. Posted the engine I had bought from you some time ago and it sold within a couple of hours. The gent happened to be looking for a Lifan for some time so it's going to make someone happy. I think that's cool.

Another thing I could use is a tip on using a 1-1/8 threadless fork on this 1" threaded sized frame. Either I need a headset adapter or maybe I just go with a vintage fork. I'm still investigating this one.
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http://www.genuinebicycleproducts.com/parts.html Go to the bottom of page it might help
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:16 PM
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http://www.genuinebicycleproducts.com/parts.html Go to the bottom of page it might help
Perfect. I'll get out the calipers tomorrow and double check and if everything looks right I'll order a head set. I had been considering vintage but I'm just not too crazy about old forks on a motorized bike.
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http://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Deluxe.../dp/B008ZTM7PY This is a nice fork and its chromoly
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