Working on my lighting system

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Scotchmo

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I’m working on my lighting right now and read many of the applicable posts. The consensus appears to be that the white wire can be used to power a 6v system of limited power requirements. I also read and verified that it is AC and shorting it or drawing too much power from the wire will kill the spark. A full wave bridge was suggested to convert to DC which would be more appropriate for a charging/battery/lighting system. I also read that the CDI is powered from only one half of the AC wave. If true, there may be some other options for a lighting system.

I used a half wave rectifier to verify this. With the engine idling, I connected a diode to the white wire and shorted it to the frame. The engine died. I restarted the engine and reversed the diode and shorted it to the frame. Even with a direct short the engine slowed only very slightly. Using this half wave rectifier configuration, I should be able to have what ever electrical load the system can provide without significantly affecting the spark.

The voltage appears to vary with RPM. The RMS (average) voltage of a half wave rectifier is .707 times that of the AC or full wave RMS voltage. I’m going to experiment with some simple electrical systems on my bike using a single diode for half wave rectification, a capacitor, maybe a battery and zener diode for regulation. I’m planning on doing a 6v system but because of the half wave rectifier, I may have to use a lower voltage system.

If anyone has looked into any of the above, I would like to hear about it. I’ll post again after I have some results.

I live in California. To comply with the laws, I need to operate as a moped. That means a one time $18 plate fee and the proper equipment. A stoplamp and horn are required. I plan on driving at night, so I also need a headlamp and taillamp. The brightness requirements for a moped are less than for other vehicles, so I’m hoping that the alternator on the engine can provide enough power. I will use LEDs in at least the taillamp and stoplamp. I plan on using an electric horn even though a mechanical horn might be legal
 

Nashville Kat

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I recently got a nice lightweight plastic LED headlamp from dealer "boygofast" on ebay, only $18 , and a more standard larger rear generator light from bikeworldUSA.com for $5.50 and shipping, I've only tested so far with a 6v drycell.

Hope to get a toggle and try on bike soon, and maybe I can get back here. No electronics whiz here-- I'll just see if they work w/o slowing me down!
 

TerrontheSnake

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I am building a similar circuit and charging sys with a full lighting suite. I will let you know what I find. However from my understanding I don't think I worry about the half wave rec. I have ran plenty of juice out of that white wire without killing the motor unless I intentionally short it to the frame.
 

Scotchmo

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For TerrontheSnake ,

I thought is was interesting that a 1/2 wave setup would not kill the engine even with a direct short when setup as a negative ground. If setup as a positive ground by reversing the diode, it is easy to kill the engine when a load is applied. Some more testing will determine if the 1/2 wave will provide enough of a trickle charge for the battery. I'm assuming that with the full wave, you have to isolate the the lighting system ground from the frame. I'll test that out too.