My 66 cc Flying Horse crank balancing

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misel

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These are the measured weights:

Con rod small end = 26 gr
Piston + rings + needle bearing + pin + pin clips = 106 gr
Balancing weight = 57% × (26 + 106) = 75.4 gr
Ballast = 75.4 - 26 = 49.24 gr

I ended up shaving this much from flywheel = 36 gr (at crank pin side)



 
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mew905

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Im interested too, as I've lightened the piston a bit thanks to the new reeds, I'm thinking I may need to rebalance
 

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I still got vibration, but in lower rpm.
When the engine was stock, the vibration was at 5000 rpm up, now it's a bit lesser vibration and at 3500 rpm to 4000 rpm. I am still not happy with this, the vibration can still make hands numb.
I am using modified cdi and MM hi comp head and banana pipe right after the crank balancing.
I will try to put back the standard head and see if it can give better result.
 

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I replaced the banana exhaust pipe with stock gutted pipe. The vibration is much less now that my hands are not numb when riding.
I am still using hi comp MM head, still enjoying it.
I feel the stock gutted pipe gives better torque and a bit louder but nicer bold sound. I am not going back to banana pipe.
 
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mew905

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you didn't need to split the crank? what tools would be required to do the job? I've never taken a motor down that far before (mostly because I keep stripping the stupid gear puller and give up, or because the flathead screws under the gears [on a different, gutted motor] are so tight I strip the heads off them too
 

misel

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My crank shaft is one piece type.
I think impact screw driver can be very useful for some screws in there.
And while in there, I changed all 4 bearings with Japan made ones.
I splitted the crank case carefully, then I could reuse the crack case gasket with no leaking problem.

The flywheels have a metal cover each side.
I used angle grinder to shave some weight off inside both of the flywheels.
Then when I put the covers back on, the shaved cavities were all covered, thus no change in crank case pressure ratio.

I found trouble when unscrewing the wide flat head screw on the small pinion gear, even the impact driver couldn't work, it still stripped the flat head screw, so I machined a flat head screw driver out of a chisel that can take the whole width of that stubborn flat head screw. Using this, it unscrewed easily by also using other tool to help turn the chisel.
 

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Update about vibrations.
I added a brace to hold the exhaust pipe (as shown in the picture - pardon the dirtiness)
After a few test runs, I am sure the exhaust brace took away some more portion of the remaining vibrations.
 

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