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As a third order Franciscan there is so much I could say but I won't as I have no wish to start a 'war' on this forum.

I accept I will lose the goodwill of some here, but I must ask, did America or Britain ever think that the wholesale export of death to offshore destinations would remain unanswered?

Our countries have sent soldiers into war againt sovereign nations; have supplied, and will continue to supply regimes so far from decency and morality they could have a seat at the table in the pit with Hitler and Stalin.

I think that bringing medicines and education and the hand of friendship would do far more to break down the stupidities of intolerance than any amount of violence.

Agree with Ludwig. And just with the treatment of blacks and native Americans we have much to be ashamed of, treated them worse then dogs.

I'll agree that I don't give a darn about those guys who behead people. Or the ones who send suicide bombers into crowds of regular folks who are only trying to make their way in the world. Given the chance, I'd simply scrub them from the face of the Earth. I'd do my best to leave absolutely no trace of them in order that civilized people could just do their best to reject and forget such animals.

But the folks above are absolutely correct in their assertion that our society has much to be ashamed of. In the fairly recent past and in the present.

Are we better than ISIS? Yes, we most certainly are. But that's not good enough to make the arrogant claim that the trouble in the world is everyone else's fault.

I don't personally think you've exactly done wrong, flyman, by posting this thread. But it is the sort of subject that can get tempers flaring.

Yes. There are times when I, too, want to declare publicly what I think is right. Or what I think is wrong. Some moral issues are too big to always be silent about.

But when I feel that I've just got to say it, then I go to a site that's meant for political discussions.

Place on this site, these sort of things feel as though they just might damage the 'community' we all feel in this hobby. Which is, after all, the main purpose of this particular site. This site is just not meant for the really heavy issues.

The trend today is to label the behavior of the individual and not to label the individual. That trend may be appropriate for dealing with children, but not adults.

One of the taboo subjects in a British pub is politics; we've had pubs for longer than there's been an America, so the years have taught us to leave some things at the door.

I'll leave this thread with the wish for and kindness to be on our lips, not anger and discord.

I am a member of a FaceBook political debate page. OMG it can get rough and bloody, there are a few rules, sometimes enforced. Political and religious discussions have a way of getting completely out of hand.